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After a page break the heading format runs into the previous page

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jotego - 28 Aug 2007 03:58 GMT
After inserting a page break, if the new page starts with a heading line then
the heading format runs into the previous page last line. This is especially
problematic when the heading format includes shading because the last line of
the previous page becomes completely shaded.

If I try to remove the heading format from the previous page, then the
heading line of the new page disappears!

This also happens with columns: the heading of a new column line runs into
the old one when using the column break.
jotego - 28 Aug 2007 05:08 GMT
Also, the "page break before" solution does not work when working with
columns. Any idea about how to do it with columns?

> After inserting a page break, if the new page starts with a heading line then
> the heading format runs into the previous page last line. This is especially
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> This also happens with columns: the heading of a new column line runs into
> the old one when using the column break.
Lene Fredborg - 28 Aug 2007 09:00 GMT
I think that the following could be what causes the problems:

A. If you pressed Ctrl+Return instead of Return at the end of the "previous
page last line", you did not create a new paragraph - the "heading" and your
"last line" still make up one paragraph and will thus always have the same
paragraph style.

B. If you positioned the insertion marker in the start of the heading and
pressed Ctrl+Return to insert a page break, the page break will also be
applied the heading style.

If A and/or B above is correct, you should instead do as follows:

A. Always press Return (not Ctrl+Return) to start a new paragraph.

B. Do not create page breaks using Ctrl+Return. Instead, click in the
paragraph that is to start on a new page. Then select Format > Paragraph >
Line and Page Breaks tab and turn on "Page break before" (then the page break
will be an attribute of the paragraph and it will work correctly). However,
according to you second post, you may already use this method.

I recommend that you turn on nonprinting characters (formatting marks) so
that you can see exactly what you have in your document (press Ctrl+Shift+8
or click the ¶ icon on the Standard toolbar). A paragraph mark looks like
this: ¶. A manual line break looks like a bent arrow.

For further details about formatting marks, see this article:
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/NonPrintChars.htm

About columns: If you want the text to start on a new page, use the "Page
break before"-method described above. If you want the text to start in the
next column, use Insert > Break > Column break.

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Lene Fredborg
DocTools - Denmark
www.thedoctools.com
Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word

> Also, the "page break before" solution does not work when working with
> columns. Any idea about how to do it with columns?
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> > This also happens with columns: the heading of a new column line runs into
> > the old one when using the column break.
jotego - 28 Aug 2007 09:10 GMT
Thanks a lot for your reply.

I always thought that starting a page meant starting a paragraph but I see I
was wrong.

Creating a new column with the "insert break -> column" method does not
start a paragraph either so it looks like the only way to have a heading
starting a column is to manually press Return as many times as needed.

It is odd this has to be done manually though.

> I think that the following could be what causes the problems:
>
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> > > This also happens with columns: the heading of a new column line runs into
> > > the old one when using the column break.
Doug Robbins - Word MVP - 28 Aug 2007 09:36 GMT
NO, you just need a hard return before you insert the column break or the
page break.

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Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

> Thanks a lot for your reply.
>
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>> > > into
>> > > the old one when using the column break.
jotego - 30 Aug 2007 06:20 GMT
I tried pressing Return and Shift+Return and it did not work. What do you
mean by "hard return" and how can it be done?

Thank you!

> NO, you just need a hard return before you insert the column break or the
> page break.
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> >> > > into
> >> > > the old one when using the column break.
Doug Robbins - Word MVP - 30 Aug 2007 10:13 GMT
By hard return, I mean you press the Enter key.  And that definitely does
what you want here.

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Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

>I tried pressing Return and Shift+Return and it did not work. What do you
> mean by "hard return" and how can it be done?
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>> >> > > into
>> >> > > the old one when using the column break.

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