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Bill R - 30 Oct 2007 18:24 GMT

I am creating a document fromat with different odd and even pages. Formatted
is as follows: Portrait / mirror margins/ apply to whole document/ section
start - continuous/ headers and footers - different odd and even.
The first five sections do not have page numbering. Inserting a page number
in the footer of the first page of section 6 - page # = 6 - as it should be.
However, I want this page to be page #1. When I use the format page number
feature and set the page # to start at 1, the Even Page Header and Footer
change to the Odd Page Hearer and Footer and is set to same as previous.
Whats up??

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Lene Fredborg - 30 Oct 2007 18:57 GMT

Try to check the information in the Status bar (bottom of the window). Before
you change the page number to 1, your page is page 6 in the document – also
note the total number of pages in the document. When you change the page
number to 1, I am quite sure that the page number shown in the Status bar is
7 and that the total number of pages is increased by 1. If that is correct,
the following explains why:
You have told Word that you want different even and odd pages. Page 6 is an
even page (6 is an even number). When you set the page number of page 6 to 1,
you also ask Word to change the page to an odd page (because 1 is an odd
number). Therefore, Word inserts a blank page 6 in front of the page that you
changed to number 1 (check the document in Print Preview).

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> I am creating a document fromat with different odd and even pages. Formatted
> is as follows: Portrait / mirror margins/ apply to whole document/ section
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> change to the Odd Page Hearer and Footer and is set to same as previous.
> Whats up??

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Jay Freedman - 30 Oct 2007 19:00 GMT

> I am creating a document fromat with different odd and even pages.
> Formatted is as follows: Portrait / mirror margins/ apply to whole
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Even Page Header and Footer change to the Odd Page Hearer and Footer
> and is set to same as previous. Whats up??

For some reason ;-) Word knows that "1" is an odd number. It isn't willing
to let you have an Even Page Header/Footer on an odd-numbered page, so it
displays the Odd Page Header/Footer. Since that hadn't been displayed
before, it still has the default Same As Previous.

I think the only way you're going to get this even-page-start scheme to work
is to fake the page numbers with a formula field. You can leave the starting
page number at the original "6", and use the nested field

{= {page} - 5}

in the even and odd headers of section 6 and beyond. However, that will
wreak havoc with any table of contents or index if you have them.

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Bill R - 01 Nov 2007 13:31 GMT

Lene and Jay, thanks for the help. I looked at the page formats and adjusted.
Well that didn't work. Heres what I tried: Page 1 is the cover page - no
page number, page two is a blank page - no page number w/continuous section
break, page 3 is the first page for my front matter, want page numbering
formatted as i, ii, iii, iv, as so on. It has an odd header and footer.
When inserting the page number, the result is iii - so far so good. When the
page number is formatted to start at i, the headers and footer shift - page 3
becomes an even header and footer format and page 4 becomes odd. Pulling out
what little hair I have left.

> > I am creating a document fromat with different odd and even pages.
> > Formatted is as follows: Portrait / mirror margins/ apply to whole
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> in the even and odd headers of section 6 and beyond. However, that will
> wreak havoc with any table of contents or index if you have them.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 01 Nov 2007 17:05 GMT

To get the blank page after the cover page, use an Odd Page section break.
But note that the cover (title) page should be page i. This is
printing/publishing convention. So the numbering in Section 2 should
continue from the previous section, where you can leave the header and
footer blank (those pages have numbers whether they're printed or not). Page
3 absolutely should not be an even page unless you're using a calculated
page number.

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> Lene and Jay, thanks for the help. I looked at the page formats and adjusted.
> Well that didn't work. Heres what I tried: Page 1 is the cover page - no
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> > in the even and odd headers of section 6 and beyond. However, that will
> > wreak havoc with any table of contents or index if you have them.

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