MS Office Forum / Word / Page Layout / January 2008
Top margin. Why can't I control it?
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PeterBBailey - 15 Jan 2008 15:21 GMT I want to put in our company logo at the top left of a page. It's a big character, 156 point. It's using a special logo font I made with a font program I have. When I type the character in, it's lowered way down on the page. My page layout is set to top. My top margin is set to what I want it, just half an inch or so. I've tried "raising" my font character 60 or 70 points, but, it doesn't do anything. I've changed the font to a standard Roman font and it still does nothing. Help!
Thanks, Peter
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 15 Jan 2008 19:03 GMT Word is allowing a lot of extra line spacing for your font character. You have a number of options:
1. Reduce the line spacing until the logo is *almost* truncated.
2. Put the logo in a text box, wrapped, and partly off the page (not a really great idea).
3. Use a graphic for the logo instead; having a logo as a font character is not really that great an idea.
4. Redesign the font with less built-in leading.
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>I want to put in our company logo at the top left of a page. It's a big > character, 156 point. It's using a special logo font I made with a font [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks, > Peter PeterBBailey - 15 Jan 2008 19:50 GMT > Word is allowing a lot of extra line spacing for your font character. You > have a number of options: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Thanks, but, none of this works. I have no extra leading at all for this character. I have no extra paragraph spacing above the paragraph either. I've already tried importing a picture, but that's a separate nightmare. I'm using Word 2007 and, I have to say, it's the worst of all of them with regarding to importing pictures. I used to be able to import an EPS file and scale it to my liking. Now, when I import my EPS file, even one scaled down to the EXACT size I want, it displays it 100 times as wide as it really as and 100 times as short as it really is. And, I can't seem to scale it. So, I've pretty much given up on Word as a "desktop publishing" engine. I'm considered an "expert" here at my company with this software, believe it or not, but, I have to hit Word with a stick every day to make it do what I want. But, here, it's defeated me. . . . Suzanne S. Barnhill - 15 Jan 2008 22:36 GMT Is there some reason you're not putting the logo in the page header? Have you checked to see whether the paragraph has an Space Before?
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>> Word is allowing a lot of extra line spacing for your font character. You >> have a number of options: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> believe it or not, but, I have to hit Word with a stick every day to make >> it do what I want. But, here, it's defeated me. . . . CyberTaz - 16 Jan 2008 14:26 GMT Sorry to butt in, but just a thought & I'll butt out:-)
If your logo is designed as a font it may not be a matter of "extra" space so much as a matter of "default" space. Unless you explicitly designed it to do otherwise the line spacing for the para your logo is in is set to Single which translates to leading of 120% of the font size - which in this case is quite a lot. What happens if you set the line spacing for that para to Exactly the same size as the logo character... plus maybe a few fractions of a pt or so?
Regards |:>) Bob Jones [MVP] Office:Mac
On 1/15/08 2:50 PM, in article 4179EE35-3728-46F1-93C6-F933184806E1@microsoft.com, "PeterBBailey"
>> Word is allowing a lot of extra line spacing for your font character. You >> have a number of options: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> Word with a stick every day to make it do what I want. But, here, it's >> defeated me. . . . Suzanne S. Barnhill - 16 Jan 2008 15:01 GMT That's what I was getting at as well.
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> Sorry to butt in, but just a thought & I'll butt out:-) > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] >>> Word with a stick every day to make it do what I want. But, here, it's >>> defeated me. . . . PeterBBailey - 18 Jan 2008 14:41 GMT > That's what I was getting at as well. > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > >>> Word with a stick every day to make it do what I want. But, here, it's > >>> defeated me. . . . My font character is designed appropriate. Yes, originally, my paragraph spacing was set to single. I changed it to an exact point measure, starting with about 80 points of leading. On the screen, the character moves up, appropriately, but, it also shaves off the top of itself so that you can't see the top half of the character. I tried a variety of leadings and they all chop it off. When it prints, though, it looks good. But, that's no way to work in a page layout program. And, as I said, this strangeness occurs if I were to use boring old Arial, too, so, the problem has nothing to do with my font.
I tried putting the character in the header, as you suggested, Suzanne. That did work, but, it's still shaving off the top of the character. And, in a text box, it behaves exactly the same.
What I've ended up doing is simply giving my colleagues actual printed letterhead and showing them how to put it in the printer so they can type their letters with it.
Thanks, anyway. Word is a very good word processor, but, it's unbelievably bad as a page layout program.
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 18 Jan 2008 16:14 GMT FWIW, I have never had the sort of problems you describe, and I put text and graphics in the page header all the time. There is, of course, a certain amount of unprintable area at the top of the page, so if you're trying to print full bleed you'll be disappointed.
 Signature Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA
>> That's what I was getting at as well. >> [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] > Thanks, anyway. Word is a very good word processor, but, it's unbelievably > bad as a page layout program.
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