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Footnotes in tables

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Pam - 15 Jun 2004 17:21 GMT
When I put a footnote in a table that has repeating
headers, the footnote inserts a section break and screws
up the table. Is this a bug in Word?
Anne Troy - 16 Jun 2004 01:22 GMT
I wouldn't even bother trying to put footnotes into a table unless and until
I was completely finished my document. Like a table of contents that you
want to have be different than the one generated electronically, your
formatting will get wiped out when the fields update. Wait until you're done
your document, or manually create your footnotes.
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Hope this helps!
Anne Troy (better known as Dreamboat)
Web: www.VBAExpress.com
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> When I put a footnote in a table that has repeating
> headers, the footnote inserts a section break and screws
> up the table. Is this a bug in Word?
Stefan Blom - 16 Jun 2004 14:23 GMT
All I can think of is that the table is wrapped, which could cause odd
behavior as far as footnote placement is concerned. But if the table
is wrapped, it won't flow to the next page, either, which I assume is
what you want (since you mentioned the repeating headings). You didn't
mention that as being part of the problem, though.

Anyway, you can do the following to ensure that the table isn't
wrapped: On the Table menu, click Table Properties. In the dialog box,
make sure "None" is selected under "Text wrapping", and click OK.

Does this make a difference?

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> When I put a footnote in a table that has repeating
> headers, the footnote inserts a section break and screws
> up the table. Is this a bug in Word?
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 16 Jun 2004 15:14 GMT
I haven't actually tested this (I'm not familiar with any footnote problems
that arise in tables, though something similar happens in newspaper-style
columns), but I would agree with Stefan's assessment. The reason I don't
have any knowledge about or experience with this problem is that I don't
ever use Word's Footnote feature for table footnotes. Because such footnotes
properly belong at the bottom of the table rather than at the bottom of a
page (and usually use distinctive reference marks), I usually create them
manually and put them either just below the table or (more often) in the
(merged) bottom row of the table.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
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> All I can think of is that the table is wrapped, which could cause odd
> behavior as far as footnote placement is concerned. But if the table
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> > headers, the footnote inserts a section break and screws
> > up the table. Is this a bug in Word?
Stefan Blom - 17 Jun 2004 08:55 GMT
I'm not familiar with a footnote problem that causes a page break or a
section break in a table either. The problem I was referring to
is the fact that in a wrapped table, if footnote placement is set to
"Beneath text" rather than "Bottom of page", you might end up with the
footnote text appearing behind the table (at least this is the case in
Word 2000). For example:
___________
|          |Text "following" the wrapped table is here. Note: Adding
|          |more text
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| wrapped  |
|__________|

Of course manual insertion of footnotes would be the easiest in a
table, but how do you handle that in a table that spans multiple
pages, and that has no "natural" last row whose cells you can merge
and whose borders you can hide? If you use the very last row (which
seems "natural" enough) of the table it might get tricky to keep track
of the numbering, at least for large tables with many footnotes. And
if you do it on a page-by-page basis, you risk that what was once the
last row of page 1 moves to page 2.

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> I haven't actually tested this (I'm not familiar with any footnote problems
> that arise in tables, though something similar happens in newspaper-style
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> > > headers, the footnote inserts a section break and screws
> > > up the table. Is this a bug in Word?
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 17 Jun 2004 15:29 GMT
I put all the footnotes at the end of the table. Yes, it would be preferable
to put them at the bottom of the relevant page, but since this is, as you
point out, difficult-to-impossible to do, I just take the line of least
resistance and haven't had any complaints from clients. OTOH, I rarely
create a table longer than two pages, and most are confined to one. And the
number of footnotes rarely exceeds three, either.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
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> I'm not familiar with a footnote problem that causes a page break or a
> section break in a table either. The problem I was referring to
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> > > > headers, the footnote inserts a section break and screws
> > > > up the table. Is this a bug in Word?
Stefan Blom - 18 Jun 2004 13:56 GMT
Thank you for your comments.

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> I put all the footnotes at the end of the table. Yes, it would be preferable
> to put them at the bottom of the relevant page, but since this is, as you
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> > > > > headers, the footnote inserts a section break and screws
> > > > > up the table. Is this a bug in Word?
 
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