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- 25 Jun 2004 11:42 GMT
How do I undo a 'shrink to fit'? MS Word Help says it is
difficult...Is there a way.
At least I think that is the problem. My page is not
printing full-size but reduced to about 90% or less.
garfield-n-odie - 25 Jun 2004 11:48 GMT
Does the page look reduced on the screen too?  Or does it look full-size
on screen and just prints reduced?

> How do I undo a 'shrink to fit'? MS Word Help says it is
> difficult...Is there a way.
> At least I think that is the problem. My page is not
> printing full-size but reduced to about 90% or less.
Jane - 25 Jun 2004 12:13 GMT
Just prints reduced. Also full size in print preview.

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>Does the page look reduced on the screen too?  Or does it look full-size
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Jane - 25 Jun 2004 12:27 GMT
Correction to below:
Prints reduced towards upper left hand corner. On screen,
the right margin (not bottom) is larger. Ruler on top of
page looks to be the size for narrower document. Cannot
correct size of ruler to be same as paper size. I am
producing letter size document for US, but otherwise
produce A4 documents. So may be problem in something
overriding something. Thanks.

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>Just prints reduced. Also full size in print preview.
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garfield-n-odie - 25 Jun 2004 12:48 GMT
What you just said gives me another idea.  Click on File | Page Setup |
Paper.  Is the paper size selected here the same as what is loaded in
the printer?

> Correction to below:
> Prints reduced towards upper left hand corner. On screen,
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Jane - 25 Jun 2004 13:14 GMT
No, did not work. And Yes, paper size is different in
printer. As I have a US client, I want it to print like a
letter size document(to retain format), on A4 paper for
me to review (as I don't have letter paper).

But I see another problem with the ruler: ruler shows a
page about 7 x 9. I have selected Letter paper in page
setup, and page setup, indicating 8 1/2 x 11. No matter
what I do cannot get rid of 7 x 9 size (shape looks funny
on the screen, by the way, too). That is why I thought it
was a shrink to size problem before. This document has
been in hands of US person putting in changes, so not
sure what happened on that end to give you more info.
thanks

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>What you just said gives me another idea.  Click on File
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garfield-n-odie - 25 Jun 2004 13:32 GMT
Hmmm... I would think it impossible to have one page size defined in
page setup and another page size show on screen.  Try pressing Ctrl+A to
select all of the text, then copy and paste it to a new document.  Does
that help?

> No, did not work. And Yes, paper size is different in
> printer. As I have a US client, I want it to print like a
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Jane - 25 Jun 2004 14:30 GMT
Did not work to copy and paste in a new document. But I
was able to change the document to A4. It looks normal on
screen, prints normal, and ruler is normal. As soon as I
change it to Letter, all three are not normal. Could it
be that the Letter format is corrupted? If so, how do I
reset it? I use it frequently.

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>Hmmm... I would think it impossible to have one page size defined in
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garfield-n-odie - 25 Jun 2004 14:44 GMT
That's buried in the printer driver... you can delete and reinstall the
printer in Start | Control Panel | Printers.  But before you do that,
try copying and pasting everything EXCEPT the last paragraph mark in the
existing document into a new document... how now?

> Did not work to copy and paste in a new document. But I
> was able to change the document to A4. It looks normal on
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Jane - 25 Jun 2004 15:10 GMT
I spoke too soon. Although printing in A4 is better, the
paper size indicated in horz/vertical rulers is now 7 x
10.5, so looks better but paper size is still not the
same as in page setup selection in A4, too. The ruler
seems to be the key. On the top, horizontal ruler, the
ruler itself is even shorter than the page width. I
copied every thing but the last paragraph mark into a new
document, and no change. The paragraph markings must be
throughout.

UPDATE: Good idea. When I copy only the first few pages,
minus the paragraph marking on the last paragraph into a
new doc with A4 set up, it works. If I do it to the end
of the document, minus the last paragraph, it does not.
How can I reveal the problem code?

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>That's buried in the printer driver... you can delete and reinstall the
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garfield-n-odie - 25 Jun 2004 15:24 GMT
This is so strange.  Word is supposed to store "document" information in
the last paragraph mark, so copying everything except the last paragraph
mark sometimes fixes problems like this.  There's no telling exactly
where the "bad" paragraph mark is, if it's not the last one.  I'd say to
keep copying a few paragraphs or pages at a time into the new document
until it messes up, then you'll know where the problem child is.

> I spoke too soon. Although printing in A4 is better, the
> paper size indicated in horz/vertical rulers is now 7 x
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Jane - 25 Jun 2004 15:43 GMT
I found it. By accident. I accepted all changes in track.
One format change did not clear....Guess which one. I
deleted it by copying, retyping over error, etc. and then
copied whole temp document into a new one, and it worked--
both in A4 and Letter. Thanks for expert help. Whew!

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>This is so strange.  Word is supposed to store "document" information in
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garfield-n-odie - 25 Jun 2004 12:40 GMT
Hi, Jane.

Click on Tools | Options | Print | uncheck the "Allow A4/Letter
resizing" box | OK.

Click on File | Print.  In the "Print what" box, it should say
"Document" (not "Document with Markup").  If there is a Scaling/Resizing
option in this menu, set it to 100% or No Scaling or something like
that.  Click on the Properties button next to the printer name.  You
will probably see several tabs... look in all of them and turn off any
Scaling/Resizing options.

Let me know if it works.  :-)

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