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Page numbering in footers, Outside margin, Page Number + Number of Pages

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Eric G - 21 Apr 2005 09:17 GMT
Hello



Windows XPP SP2

Office 2003 SP1



When printing in duplex, I would like to use page numbering in the footer, on the "outside" margin containing both the page number and the total number of pages, e.g. in the format 1 (12), or similar.


In Word, it's easy to use the command, Insert -> Page Numbers -> Position: Bottom of page, Alignment: Outside. But, this command only enters the page number, not the number of pages, and as far as I can see, there is no option for this either.

As Word inserts the page number in a frame, I've used this Insert -> Page Numbers command, then through View -> Headers and Footers, positioned my cursor in the frame and added the Insert Number of Pages into same, and, in my case, the two brackets, thereby getting an acceptable result.


I can, of course, go straight into Headers and Footers, enter the Page Number and Number of Pages command, but how do I get these positioned at the outside margin? Is there a function for this, that I've missed?


There must be some easier way of doing this than my primitive way of doing this, as described above?


Grateful for any suggestions.

Eric G

Stockholm, Sweden
Stefan Blom - 21 Apr 2005 09:26 GMT
You can enable different odd and even pages (on the Layout tab of
File>Page Setup) which allows you to keep separate contents in
odd and even footers. Then you can easily insert "Page X of Y"
via the AutoText entries accessible in the Header/Footer toolbar.
And you can specify the alignment by using either tab stops
(there are three predefined tab stops in the Footer paragraph
style) or by using paragraph alignment.

Signature

Stefan Blom

>Hello

Windows XPP SP2
Office 2003 SP1

When printing in duplex, I would like to use page numbering in
the footer, on the "outside" margin containing both the page
number and the total number of pages, e.g. in the format 1 (12),
or similar.

In Word, it's easy to use the command, Insert -> Page Numbers ->
Position: Bottom of page, Alignment: Outside. But, this command
only enters the page number, not the number of pages, and as far
as I can see, there is no option for this either.

As Word inserts the page number in a frame, I've used this
Insert -> Page Numbers command, then through View -> Headers and
Footers, positioned my cursor in the frame and added the Insert
Number of Pages into same, and, in my case, the two brackets,
thereby getting an acceptable result.

I can, of course, go straight into Headers and Footers, enter the
Page Number and Number of Pages command, but how do I get these
positioned at the outside margin? Is there a function for this,
that I've missed?

There must be some easier way of doing this than my primitive way
of doing this, as described above?

Grateful for any suggestions.

Eric G
Stockholm, Sweden
Eric G - 21 Apr 2005 11:20 GMT
Stefan,

Quite right, and very easy it was. Thank you!

Actually, I've always overlooked the Insert Auto Text entries in the Header / Footer set up, which, all of a sudden, brings up another question, prompted by my newly won insight, if you would be so kind:

I happen to live and work in Sweden (not really by choice, but anyway), but live and work in an English environment, why all my software, including operating system, Office, and everything else, are int'l English versions. No Swedish versions, whatsoever. However, I noticed that in the Header / Footer Insert Auto Text, my entries are in the Swedish. All my programs are updated with int'l English versions, and as far as I can tell, there shouldn't be anything Swedish on my system. So where does the system pick up the Swedish entries? And, more importantly, is there a way of easily resetting this Swedish behavior, to something more understandable, like back to English again?

Now, when I noticed this, I also checked my Excel 2003, and noticed that my Custom lists (Tools -> Options -> Custom lists) all of a sudden are in Swedish too, possibly by the same reason as the Swedish entries in Word.

I noticed, many moons ago (actually, many years ago) that if I, in Internet Explorer, set Language options (Tools -> Internet Options -> Languages) to Swedish, then when I update my Microsoft software from Microsoft's server it goes to the Swedish language site, but when I remove Swedish as a language and replace it with English (United States) (en-us), then my updates will be downloaded from Microsoft's English language servers. Any connection?

Once again thanks for your help, and I'm look forward hearing from you.

Eric G
Stockholm, Sweden

 You can enable different odd and even pages (on the Layout tab of
 File>Page Setup) which allows you to keep separate contents in
 odd and even footers. Then you can easily insert "Page X of Y"
 via the AutoText entries accessible in the Header/Footer toolbar.
 And you can specify the alignment by using either tab stops
 (there are three predefined tab stops in the Footer paragraph
 style) or by using paragraph alignment.

 --
 Stefan Blom

 "Eric G" <1@1(of-course-not).com> wrote in message
 news:eA6RhqkRFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
 >
 >Hello

 Windows XPP SP2
 Office 2003 SP1

 When printing in duplex, I would like to use page numbering in
 the footer, on the "outside" margin containing both the page
 number and the total number of pages, e.g. in the format 1 (12),
 or similar.

 In Word, it's easy to use the command, Insert -> Page Numbers ->
 Position: Bottom of page, Alignment: Outside. But, this command
 only enters the page number, not the number of pages, and as far
 as I can see, there is no option for this either.

 As Word inserts the page number in a frame, I've used this
 Insert -> Page Numbers command, then through View -> Headers and
 Footers, positioned my cursor in the frame and added the Insert
 Number of Pages into same, and, in my case, the two brackets,
 thereby getting an acceptable result.

 I can, of course, go straight into Headers and Footers, enter the
 Page Number and Number of Pages command, but how do I get these
 positioned at the outside margin? Is there a function for this,
 that I've missed?

 There must be some easier way of doing this than my primitive way
 of doing this, as described above?

 Grateful for any suggestions.

 Eric G
 Stockholm, Sweden
 >
 >
Stefan Blom - 21 Apr 2005 13:22 GMT
Did you check the language settings of *Windows*?

Signature

Stefan Blom

Stefan,

Quite right, and very easy it was. Thank you!

Actually, I've always overlooked the Insert Auto Text entries in
the Header / Footer set up, which, all of a sudden, brings up
another question, prompted by my newly won insight, if you would
be so kind:

I happen to live and work in Sweden (not really by choice, but
anyway), but live and work in an English environment, why all my
software, including operating system, Office, and everything
else, are int'l English versions. No Swedish versions,
whatsoever. However, I noticed that in the Header / Footer Insert
Auto Text, my entries are in the Swedish. All my programs are
updated with int'l English versions, and as far as I can tell,
there shouldn't be anything Swedish on my system. So where does
the system pick up the Swedish entries? And, more importantly, is
there a way of easily resetting this Swedish behavior, to
something more understandable, like back to English again?

Now, when I noticed this, I also checked my Excel 2003, and
noticed that my Custom lists (Tools -> Options -> Custom lists)
all of a sudden are in Swedish too, possibly by the same reason
as the Swedish entries in Word.

I noticed, many moons ago (actually, many years ago) that if I,
in Internet Explorer, set Language options (Tools -> Internet
Options -> Languages) to Swedish, then when I update my Microsoft
software from Microsoft's server it goes to the Swedish language
site, but when I remove Swedish as a language and replace it with
English (United States) (en-us), then my updates will be
downloaded from Microsoft's English language servers. Any
connection?

Once again thanks for your help, and I'm look forward hearing
from you.

Eric G
Stockholm, Sweden

You can enable different odd and even pages (on the Layout tab of
File>Page Setup) which allows you to keep separate contents in
odd and even footers. Then you can easily insert "Page X of Y"
via the AutoText entries accessible in the Header/Footer toolbar.
And you can specify the alignment by using either tab stops
(there are three predefined tab stops in the Footer paragraph
style) or by using paragraph alignment.

Signature

Stefan Blom

"Eric G" <1@1(of-course-not).com> wrote in message
news:eA6RhqkRFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

>
>Hello

Windows XPP SP2
Office 2003 SP1

When printing in duplex, I would like to use page numbering in
the footer, on the "outside" margin containing both the page
number and the total number of pages, e.g. in the format 1 (12),
or similar.

In Word, it's easy to use the command, Insert -> Page Numbers ->
Position: Bottom of page, Alignment: Outside. But, this command
only enters the page number, not the number of pages, and as far
as I can see, there is no option for this either.

As Word inserts the page number in a frame, I've used this
Insert -> Page Numbers command, then through View -> Headers and
Footers, positioned my cursor in the frame and added the Insert
Number of Pages into same, and, in my case, the two brackets,
thereby getting an acceptable result.

I can, of course, go straight into Headers and Footers, enter the
Page Number and Number of Pages command, but how do I get these
positioned at the outside margin? Is there a function for this,
that I've missed?

There must be some easier way of doing this than my primitive way
of doing this, as described above?

Grateful for any suggestions.

Eric G
Stockholm, Sweden
Eric G - 21 Apr 2005 14:10 GMT
Stefan,

Right again. But, this one wasn't really obvious to me.

In Windows Regional and Language Options, under Languages, I had two languages installed 1) English - United States, and 2) Swedish, due to my keyboard layout being Swedish (as we have 3 extra characters in our alphabet). Now I noticed that you can run with only the English - United States setup, together with Swedish keyboard support. Consequently, there is no need for the Swedish language support at all. I wasn't aware of this before.

Problem solved. Many thanks for your assistance, much appreciated.

Eric G
Stockholm, Sweden

 Did you check the language settings of *Windows*?

 --
 Stefan Blom

 "Eric G" <1@1(of-course-not).com> wrote:

 >
 Stefan,

 Quite right, and very easy it was. Thank you!

 Actually, I've always overlooked the Insert Auto Text entries in
 the Header / Footer set up, which, all of a sudden, brings up
 another question, prompted by my newly won insight, if you would
 be so kind:

 I happen to live and work in Sweden (not really by choice, but
 anyway), but live and work in an English environment, why all my
 software, including operating system, Office, and everything
 else, are int'l English versions. No Swedish versions,
 whatsoever. However, I noticed that in the Header / Footer Insert
 Auto Text, my entries are in the Swedish. All my programs are
 updated with int'l English versions, and as far as I can tell,
 there shouldn't be anything Swedish on my system. So where does
 the system pick up the Swedish entries? And, more importantly, is
 there a way of easily resetting this Swedish behavior, to
 something more understandable, like back to English again?

 Now, when I noticed this, I also checked my Excel 2003, and
 noticed that my Custom lists (Tools -> Options -> Custom lists)
 all of a sudden are in Swedish too, possibly by the same reason
 as the Swedish entries in Word.

 I noticed, many moons ago (actually, many years ago) that if I,
 in Internet Explorer, set Language options (Tools -> Internet
 Options -> Languages) to Swedish, then when I update my Microsoft
 software from Microsoft's server it goes to the Swedish language
 site, but when I remove Swedish as a language and replace it with
 English (United States) (en-us), then my updates will be
 downloaded from Microsoft's English language servers. Any
 connection?

 Once again thanks for your help, and I'm look forward hearing
 from you.

 Eric G
 Stockholm, Sweden

 "Stefan Blom" <no.spam@please.xyz> wrote in message
 news:OTb1b2kRFHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
 You can enable different odd and even pages (on the Layout tab of
 File>Page Setup) which allows you to keep separate contents in
 odd and even footers. Then you can easily insert "Page X of Y"
 via the AutoText entries accessible in the Header/Footer toolbar.
 And you can specify the alignment by using either tab stops
 (there are three predefined tab stops in the Footer paragraph
 style) or by using paragraph alignment.

 --
 Stefan Blom

 "Eric G" <1@1(of-course-not).com> wrote in message
 news:eA6RhqkRFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
 >
 >Hello

 Windows XPP SP2
 Office 2003 SP1

 When printing in duplex, I would like to use page numbering in
 the footer, on the "outside" margin containing both the page
 number and the total number of pages, e.g. in the format 1 (12),
 or similar.

 In Word, it's easy to use the command, Insert -> Page Numbers ->
 Position: Bottom of page, Alignment: Outside. But, this command
 only enters the page number, not the number of pages, and as far
 as I can see, there is no option for this either.

 As Word inserts the page number in a frame, I've used this
 Insert -> Page Numbers command, then through View -> Headers and
 Footers, positioned my cursor in the frame and added the Insert
 Number of Pages into same, and, in my case, the two brackets,
 thereby getting an acceptable result.

 I can, of course, go straight into Headers and Footers, enter the
 Page Number and Number of Pages command, but how do I get these
 positioned at the outside margin? Is there a function for this,
 that I've missed?

 There must be some easier way of doing this than my primitive way
 of doing this, as described above?

 Grateful for any suggestions.

 Eric G
 Stockholm, Sweden
 >>
 >>
 >>
Stefan Blom - 22 Apr 2005 10:54 GMT
I'm glad I could help.

Yes, keyboard layout is independent of the system language -- and
both of them are independent of the langugage of menus and dialog
boxes.

There is also a relationship between Word's language settings and
the system language (at least for Word 2000 and later). For more,
see: http://homepage.hispeed.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm.

FWIW, my native language happens to be Swedish, too.

--
Hälsningar
Stefan Blom

>Stefan,

Right again. But, this one wasn't really obvious to me.

In Windows Regional and Language Options, under Languages, I had
two languages installed 1) English - United States, and 2)
Swedish, due to my keyboard layout being Swedish (as we have 3
extra characters in our alphabet). Now I noticed that you can run
with only the English - United States setup, together with
Swedish keyboard support. Consequently, there is no need for the
Swedish language support at all. I wasn't aware of this before.

Problem solved. Many thanks for your assistance, much
appreciated.

Eric G
Stockholm, Sweden

Did you check the language settings of *Windows*?

Signature

Stefan Blom

Stefan,

Quite right, and very easy it was. Thank you!

Actually, I've always overlooked the Insert Auto Text entries in
the Header / Footer set up, which, all of a sudden, brings up
another question, prompted by my newly won insight, if you would
be so kind:

I happen to live and work in Sweden (not really by choice, but
anyway), but live and work in an English environment, why all my
software, including operating system, Office, and everything
else, are int'l English versions. No Swedish versions,
whatsoever. However, I noticed that in the Header / Footer Insert
Auto Text, my entries are in the Swedish. All my programs are
updated with int'l English versions, and as far as I can tell,
there shouldn't be anything Swedish on my system. So where does
the system pick up the Swedish entries? And, more importantly, is
there a way of easily resetting this Swedish behavior, to
something more understandable, like back to English again?

Now, when I noticed this, I also checked my Excel 2003, and
noticed that my Custom lists (Tools -> Options -> Custom lists)
all of a sudden are in Swedish too, possibly by the same reason
as the Swedish entries in Word.

I noticed, many moons ago (actually, many years ago) that if I,
in Internet Explorer, set Language options (Tools -> Internet
Options -> Languages) to Swedish, then when I update my Microsoft
software from Microsoft's server it goes to the Swedish language
site, but when I remove Swedish as a language and replace it with
English (United States) (en-us), then my updates will be
downloaded from Microsoft's English language servers. Any
connection?

Once again thanks for your help, and I'm look forward hearing
from you.

Eric G
Stockholm, Sweden

You can enable different odd and even pages (on the Layout tab of
File>Page Setup) which allows you to keep separate contents in
odd and even footers. Then you can easily insert "Page X of Y"
via the AutoText entries accessible in the Header/Footer toolbar.
And you can specify the alignment by using either tab stops
(there are three predefined tab stops in the Footer paragraph
style) or by using paragraph alignment.

Signature

Stefan Blom

"Eric G" <1@1(of-course-not).com> wrote in message
news:eA6RhqkRFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

>
>Hello

Windows XPP SP2
Office 2003 SP1

When printing in duplex, I would like to use page numbering in
the footer, on the "outside" margin containing both the page
number and the total number of pages, e.g. in the format 1 (12),
or similar.

In Word, it's easy to use the command, Insert -> Page Numbers ->
Position: Bottom of page, Alignment: Outside. But, this command
only enters the page number, not the number of pages, and as far
as I can see, there is no option for this either.

As Word inserts the page number in a frame, I've used this
Insert -> Page Numbers command, then through View -> Headers and
Footers, positioned my cursor in the frame and added the Insert
Number of Pages into same, and, in my case, the two brackets,
thereby getting an acceptable result.

I can, of course, go straight into Headers and Footers, enter the
Page Number and Number of Pages command, but how do I get these
positioned at the outside margin? Is there a function for this,
that I've missed?

There must be some easier way of doing this than my primitive way
of doing this, as described above?

Grateful for any suggestions.

Eric G
Stockholm, Sweden
Eric G - 22 Apr 2005 12:28 GMT
Stefan,

I suspected as much from the spelling of your name, but I didn't want to offend you by asking.

The most important thing was though, that you quickly and easily solved my little problems, and secondarily, that I learned something new again. It's strange, but I seem to learn something new every day of my life. And, possibly, that's what keeps me going.

Much obliged, Stefan.

Best regards,

Eric G
Stockholm, Sweden

 I'm glad I could help.

 Yes, keyboard layout is independent of the system language -- and
 both of them are independent of the langugage of menus and dialog
 boxes.

 There is also a relationship between Word's language settings and
 the system language (at least for Word 2000 and later). For more,
 see: http://homepage.hispeed.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm.

 FWIW, my native language happens to be Swedish, too.

 --
 Hälsningar
 Stefan Blom

 "Eric G" <1@1(of-course-not).com> wrote in message
 news:O$mcNVoRFHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
 >
 >Stefan,

 Right again. But, this one wasn't really obvious to me.

 In Windows Regional and Language Options, under Languages, I had
 two languages installed 1) English - United States, and 2)
 Swedish, due to my keyboard layout being Swedish (as we have 3
 extra characters in our alphabet). Now I noticed that you can run
 with only the English - United States setup, together with
 Swedish keyboard support. Consequently, there is no need for the
 Swedish language support at all. I wasn't aware of this before.

 Problem solved. Many thanks for your assistance, much
 appreciated.

 Eric G
 Stockholm, Sweden

 "Stefan Blom" <no.spam@please.xyz> wrote in message
 news:u2hmL6mRFHA.1392@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
 Did you check the language settings of *Windows*?

 --
 Stefan Blom

 "Eric G" <1@1(of-course-not).com> wrote:

 >
 Stefan,

 Quite right, and very easy it was. Thank you!

 Actually, I've always overlooked the Insert Auto Text entries in
 the Header / Footer set up, which, all of a sudden, brings up
 another question, prompted by my newly won insight, if you would
 be so kind:

 I happen to live and work in Sweden (not really by choice, but
 anyway), but live and work in an English environment, why all my
 software, including operating system, Office, and everything
 else, are int'l English versions. No Swedish versions,
 whatsoever. However, I noticed that in the Header / Footer Insert
 Auto Text, my entries are in the Swedish. All my programs are
 updated with int'l English versions, and as far as I can tell,
 there shouldn't be anything Swedish on my system. So where does
 the system pick up the Swedish entries? And, more importantly, is
 there a way of easily resetting this Swedish behavior, to
 something more understandable, like back to English again?

 Now, when I noticed this, I also checked my Excel 2003, and
 noticed that my Custom lists (Tools -> Options -> Custom lists)
 all of a sudden are in Swedish too, possibly by the same reason
 as the Swedish entries in Word.

 I noticed, many moons ago (actually, many years ago) that if I,
 in Internet Explorer, set Language options (Tools -> Internet
 Options -> Languages) to Swedish, then when I update my Microsoft
 software from Microsoft's server it goes to the Swedish language
 site, but when I remove Swedish as a language and replace it with
 English (United States) (en-us), then my updates will be
 downloaded from Microsoft's English language servers. Any
 connection?

 Once again thanks for your help, and I'm look forward hearing
 from you.

 Eric G
 Stockholm, Sweden

 "Stefan Blom" <no.spam@please.xyz> wrote in message
 news:OTb1b2kRFHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
 You can enable different odd and even pages (on the Layout tab of
 File>Page Setup) which allows you to keep separate contents in
 odd and even footers. Then you can easily insert "Page X of Y"
 via the AutoText entries accessible in the Header/Footer toolbar.
 And you can specify the alignment by using either tab stops
 (there are three predefined tab stops in the Footer paragraph
 style) or by using paragraph alignment.

 --
 Stefan Blom

 "Eric G" <1@1(of-course-not).com> wrote in message
 news:eA6RhqkRFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
 >
 >Hello

 Windows XPP SP2
 Office 2003 SP1

 When printing in duplex, I would like to use page numbering in
 the footer, on the "outside" margin containing both the page
 number and the total number of pages, e.g. in the format 1 (12),
 or similar.

 In Word, it's easy to use the command, Insert -> Page Numbers ->
 Position: Bottom of page, Alignment: Outside. But, this command
 only enters the page number, not the number of pages, and as far
 as I can see, there is no option for this either.

 As Word inserts the page number in a frame, I've used this
 Insert -> Page Numbers command, then through View -> Headers and
 Footers, positioned my cursor in the frame and added the Insert
 Number of Pages into same, and, in my case, the two brackets,
 thereby getting an acceptable result.

 I can, of course, go straight into Headers and Footers, enter the
 Page Number and Number of Pages command, but how do I get these
 positioned at the outside margin? Is there a function for this,
 that I've missed?

 There must be some easier way of doing this than my primitive way
 of doing this, as described above?

 Grateful for any suggestions.

 Eric G
 Stockholm, Sweden
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