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MS Office Forum / Word / Page Layout / November 2005Header with picture or text box
I'm working on a header, and have inserted a text box and pixture (even tried it with just a picture) on the right hand side of the header. I have formatted it so that text is wrapped around it, but when I type in the header the text runs beneath the picture and doesn't wrap. Can you do this in a header? Any suggestions? When I try and insert a text box to avoid this picture, I get a large box with a "create your drawing here"insert. I inserted this picture (absolute) when outside of the header screen, but the header text still runs under it. > I'm working on a header, and have inserted a text box and pixture (even tried > it with just a picture) on the right hand side of the header. I have > formatted it so that text is wrapped around it, but when I type in the header > the text runs beneath the picture and doesn't wrap. Can you do this in a > header? Any suggestions? Right click on the picture and change its format so that the layout allows text to go on the sides rather than just at the top and bottom. Likewise with text boxes. You do not want to put your picture in a text box. I'm not even sure if that is possible. Word treats text boxes as drawing objects and they have their own layout. I routinely use both text boxes and graphics in headers and can tell you that doing so is not a problem in the way you are describing. You might want to look at the Letterhead Textboxes and Styles tutorial http://addbalance.com/word/download.htm#LetterheadTextboxesAndStylesTutorial. Take a look at: How to set up letterhead or some other document where you want one header on the first page and a different header on other pages. http://www.addbalance.com/word/headersfooters.htm This gives step-by-step instructions. (It also has the following links) Some other pages to look at: Letterhead Tips and Instructions http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm Template Basics http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm How to Create a Template - Part 2 - essential reading http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Customization/CreateATemplatePart2.htm Hope this helps,  SignatureCharles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. > When I try and insert a text box to avoid this picture, I get a large box > with a "create your drawing here"insert. I inserted this picture [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> the text runs beneath the picture and doesn't wrap. Can you do this in a >> header? Any suggestions? Don't use a text box for your text (or your picture). Insert the text first. Then insert the picture (which will be anchored to the text paragraph you just created), and set the wrapping to Square or Tight. Using the Advanced Layout controls, set the picture position as Right Relative to Margin. If you just want text on the left and a picture on the right (you're not actually wrapping the text *around* the picture), you can put them in a borderless two-cell table, but be aware that there will be an empty text paragraph below the table. You can format it as 1 point or Hidden, but that can sometimes cause problems when you go back to edit the header and forget that the paragraph is there. SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > I'm working on a header, and have inserted a text box and pixture (even tried > it with just a picture) on the right hand side of the header. I have > formatted it so that text is wrapped around it, but when I type in the header > the text runs beneath the picture and doesn't wrap. Can you do this in a > header? Any suggestions? Thanks for the help. Sorry for posting in two forums initially. I'll try and summarize what's happening more clearly. Essentially what I have in my header is text to the left (that i modify in different documents), then a company logo (fixed towards right), and a text box (extending down the right side anchored to header) on extreme right. When I type in the header my text runs beneath these objects. It appears that when I insert a pic or text box, it gets anchored to the header and shows up on every page. However, when I type in the header area, the text goes beneath the pics and is not visible despite setting text wrapping. However, when I delete the text in the header, the header length decreases but the pics remain the same size although now half outside the header. When I type in the regular document, the text wrapping works fine. Is there anyway to lock a pic into the header with text wrapping, ie so that you couldn't decrease the overall size of the header without deleting the pic? The only way I can get around this is to insert the pic and text box, and then type the text needed, and use "paragraph settings" to reset the margins to exclude the pic and text box areas. I'm using word 2002 XP - i note that Word 2003 seems to reference a "custom header" function for this problem, but I don't think I have that. Thank you. > Don't use a text box for your text (or your picture). Insert the text first. > Then insert the picture (which will be anchored to the text paragraph you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > the text runs beneath the picture and doesn't wrap. Can you do this in a > > header? Any suggestions? In Word-speak a custom something just means something that you've created for yourself, not built-in. First, separate out the elements. Those elements are: header/document body textbox/picture Work first with the text box by itself in the the document, not the header. Then work with the picture, by itself, in the document, not the header. In each case, what you are wanting is for text to wrap around the element. Once you can do it with each of these alone in a document body, try doing it with both together, in the body. Once you can do this, select them together and paste them into your header. My current letterhead has one graphic and two text boxes so I know this can be done. Have you looked at the tutorials yet. SignatureCharles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. > Thanks for the help. Sorry for posting in two forums initially. I'll try > and summarize what's happening more clearly. Essentially what I have in my [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >> > a >> > header? Any suggestions? If by "beneath the pics" you mean behind them, then make sure you don't have the wrapping on the graphic and text box set to "In Front of Text." It must be Square or Tight. SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > Thanks for the help. Sorry for posting in two forums initially. I'll try > and summarize what's happening more clearly. Essentially what I have in my [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > the text runs beneath the picture and doesn't wrap. Can you do this in a > > > header? Any suggestions? Sorry. I'm still having a problem with this after numerous tries. I think what is happening is that somehow I am anchoring the picture in the header, but not placing it entirely within the header. I can duplicate the situation with a simple new word 2002 file using a small jpeg picture. When I enter "header/footer" and then (from within the header), with cursor at left, insert the pic... it fills up the header and the cursor moves to the line below, but still within the header (now large) area. This format remains the same on subsequent pages. However, when I click on the picture and format it to a square wrapping style, the text I originally had below the pic is now moved to the top and appears behind the picture, and the actual header area is reduced to that required by the text. The pic remains the same size, but now is anchored and extends into the rest of the document. I would have expected that the text at the bottom would wrap around the picture (which only extends a 1/3 of the way across) and the whole pic would have remained in the header area not simply anchored. ....When I leave the header area, and type text within the main document, the text wraps appropriately (square wrapping style) around the pic. Should I reload my word - or am I just completely doing something wrong?? > If by "beneath the pics" you mean behind them, then make sure you don't have > the wrapping on the graphic and text box set to "In Front of Text." It must [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > in a > > > > header? Any suggestions? I can replicate this behavior. I would have to consider it a bug, but I'm afraid there's really no way around it. You can make your text appear beside the graphic (or text box) instead of behind it by giving it a right indent. And you can force the header to extend to the depth of the graphic by adding Space After as needed (or just let the text in the body of the document wrap around the graphic). But since the text is not going to wrap below the graphic (or need to, from your description), you'd probably still be better off just putting the graphic and the text in a borderless table. You can still use the text box extending down the side of the page. Anchor that outside the table, though, so as not to cause pagination problems. SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > Sorry. I'm still having a problem with this after numerous tries. I think > what is happening is that somehow I am anchoring the picture in the header, [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > document, > > > the text wrapping works fine. Is there anyway to lock a pic into the > > header > > > with text wrapping, ie so that you couldn't decrease the overall size of [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > in a > > > > > header? Any suggestions? Instead of using my pic, I tried this with a generic word clip art (eifle tower). By simply opening a new document, view, header/footer, and then inserting the clip art. I then clicked on the clip art pic, and changed formatting to square wrapping, and the header decreased in width, and any text typed in was hidden behind the eifle tower pic. I did this to make sure that my pic wasn't messed up? Does this work and remain within the header when you do this? If so, I'll be reloading my word tomorrow as it must be messed up..... Thank you. Reloading Word will probably not help. I just inserted a clip art picture in the header. I formatted its layout to square and expanded it so that the bottom of it was in the body of the document. I then went into the body and text wrapped around the picture. If I set the layout for the picture to be in front of text, even if in the header, it will float on top of text in the body (as well as in the header). I strongly recommend that you keep trying this and not reloading Word. SignatureCharles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. > Instead of using my pic, I tried this with a generic word clip art (eifle > tower). By simply opening a new document, view, header/footer, and then [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > when you do this? If so, I'll be reloading my word tomorrow as it must be > messed up..... Thank you. Thank you. After reading Suzanne's reply it seems she was able to replicate this behavior, but I'm unsure, after reading your reply whether text wrapped around the clip art in the header area. Text wraps normally when the pic extends outside the header, but within the header the text wrapping (ie square/tight) functions do not work - only "text in front and text behind" the pic. If it's a "bug", I'll just give up and use a table, or format the paragraph indent for my text portion to avoid the pic, but if it works for you, I'll keep working at it. Thanks again for your help. > Reloading Word will probably not help. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > when you do this? If so, I'll be reloading my word tomorrow as it must be > > messed up..... Thank you. A square-formatted picture in your header is not going to decrease the width of your header although it will limit where your text can go. SignatureCharles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. > Instead of using my pic, I tried this with a generic word clip art (eifle > tower). By simply opening a new document, view, header/footer, and then [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > when you do this? If so, I'll be reloading my word tomorrow as it must be > messed up..... Thank you. My last post on this topic. I appreciate your statement below, but can you confirm that in the below situation (square formatted pic in header, not just anchored), when you enter text, it wraps around the pic as indicated by "square fromatting" or is it a bug and the text continues behind the pic as I have found, and I believe, the other poster confirmed (5 messages up). > A square-formatted picture in your header is not going to decrease the width > of your header although it will limit where your text can go. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > when you do this? If so, I'll be reloading my word tomorrow as it must be > > messed up..... Thank you. Sorry for being so obtuse. With a picture inserted in a header formatted as square or tight wrapping, text in the header flows on top of the picture or behind it and does not wrap. Text in the body wraps. The same is true of an inserted text box. I have combined graphics and text in my headers, it appears, by using text boxes to hold the text. SignatureCharles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. > My last post on this topic. I appreciate your statement below, but can you > confirm that in the below situation (square formatted pic in header, not [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> > be >> > messed up..... Thank you. |
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