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MS Office Forum / Word / Page Layout / May 2006Changes to Template Settings
Can someone out there in Microsoftland give me a clue as to what is going on with an errant template.(no, that should read several templates). There are a number of problems but I am currently only trying to solve one. I was in the process of setting up a new template for a User Manual. In the Header and Footer I set two tabs; one at 7.5cm centred and one at 15cm right. So far so good. I then went to set up the Header font and in the process noticed that the tabs had decided to move. They now read 7.62cm and 15.24. Word seems to have a habit of changing various settings for no apparent reason. I then looked at the Footer settings via 'Reveal Formaating' and sure enough the tab settings had changed. However, this time to 15.24 - the 7.5 was OK. BUT, when I went into 'Modify Style', the Tabs dialog box had completed the change and the tabs were at 7.62 and 15.24. If anyone can help I would appreciate it very much. If any more information about other settings is required I can provide it. As a matter of interest I am an experienced Tech Writer with many years working with FrameMaker. I have been using Word on this latest contract for about 18 months but have to report that it is giving me serious grief. This current problem may seem minor but it is only one of a number. I spend a lot of time correcting the fromatting of the documents because formatting (and in particular style settings) just seem to change. I think I have narrowed it down to something to do with the Tab settings but I am not sure. Any help would be appreciated. If you were using the ruler to set tabs, Word has an underlying grid for tabs and indents. If you hold the Alt key down when moving them, you can get precise spots. Note, if possible, use the Header or Footer style when working with these.  SignatureCharles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. > Can someone out there in Microsoftland give me a clue as to what is going > on [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Any help would be appreciated. I'm assuming you changed the tab stop settings in the Header and Footer styles to begin with and not just in the header and footer paragraphs. Did you use the ruler (which can be rather approximate) or make the settings in the Tabs dialog? SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > Can someone out there in Microsoftland give me a clue as to what is going on > with an errant template.(no, that should read several templates). There are a [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Suzanne and Charles for your quick responses: I set the the Header and Footer up through Styles and Formatting. I typed in the settings that I wanted. Something else that I have just noticed that could be connected. One of the first things I did when setting up the template was to go to the Tabs dialog box (Format|Tabs menus) and set the Default Tabs stops to 0. I just went in to check and the default settings have reset back from 0 to 1.27 cm again. Once again thanks for your help. > I'm assuming you changed the tab stop settings in the Header and Footer > styles to begin with and not just in the header and footer paragraphs. Did [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > Something else that I have just noticed that could be connected. > One of the first things I did when setting up the template was to go to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 1.27 > cm again. Settings like this are not document-wide or system-wide, they are a part of paragraph formatting (which is best set through the style). Sorry, don't have a clue as to what is going on for you, though. SignatureCharles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. > Thanks Suzanne and Charles for your quick responses: > I set the the Header and Footer up through Styles and Formatting. I typed [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >> > >> > Any help would be appreciated. Default tab intervals *are* document-wide, and in a template, they would affect all documents based on the template. It is very worrying that a setting of this type would not be saved. I'm wondering if the template is somehow corrupt. SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > > Something else that I have just noticed that could be connected. > > One of the first things I did when setting up the template was to go to [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > >> > > >> > Any help would be appreciated. I took your comments on board and spent a few hours last night working on a new template, trying to recreate the problems. Things went from bad to worse with a number of crashes occuring. Everything was pointing to something in the tabs causing a number of related problems (I also have trouble with numbered headings deciding to add and lose tabs, and change the indent setting). During one crash I got a message to carry out a Microsoft Update check and discovered that Mozilla Firefox (my browser) was blocking Active Server Pages (I think that was what it said, but by now it was very early in the morning). The upshot is that I have now downloaded and installed SP2 and other updates for Word 2003. I will make a start later on today and see if that has made any difference. I will keep you posted. Thanks for your ongoing help. > Default tab intervals *are* document-wide, and in a template, they would > affect all documents based on the template. It is very worrying that a [quoted text clipped - 100 lines] > > >> > > > >> > Any help would be appreciated. Another thing that occurs to me is that Tabs may be one of the constellation of dialogs (Print, Font, Style, Symbol, Page Setup, Paragraph, etc.) that can be affected by the printer driver. Sometimes problems with those dialogs point to a damaged printer driver, in which case deleting and reinstalling the printer (with an updated driver if one is available) may help. SignatureSuzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > I took your comments on board and spent a few hours last night working on > a new template, trying to recreate the problems. Things went from bad to [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] > > > >> > > > > >> > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Suzanne for your thoughts. The printer driver is a good point and I will check it out when I finish this latest test. After loading SP2 for Word 2003, et al, I carried on for a while with the template and everything seemed to be going fine. I have now deliberately started a new template - I downloaded Word Templates (A Guide to their Creation) from John McGhie and I am working through that. I figure that this is a well tried template that wouldn't contain anything likely to cause a problem. I am about half way through without any trouble and things are looking good. His (John's) approach to setting out a user manual template is pretty standard with no surprises and I have yet to find anything that I did which is different. Anyway, so far so good. (looks like it may have been SP2 update which helped) Once I have finished this test (hopefully with success) I will check out the printer driver and see if it could do with an update. Thanks for your support - greatly appreciated. > Another thing that occurs to me is that Tabs may be one of the constellation > of dialogs (Print, Font, Style, Symbol, Page Setup, Paragraph, etc.) that [quoted text clipped - 147 lines] > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Any help would be appreciated.
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