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TOC should have a sections switch

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meow9th - 02 Sep 2006 22:51 GMT
Using Word 2003.

In addition to having the switch \b for field TOC, there should be a switch
of similar functionality for sections instead of bookmarked sections. This
saves on having to create redundant "sections" (one with bookmarks, one with
section breaks) in order to achieve the desired effect of multiple TOCs, one
for each "section" (chapter in a book, for example).
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 02 Sep 2006 22:59 GMT
I definitely like this idea. In other words, you're saying that if you've
already got section breaks between chapters, you could just add a switch to
the TOC field to make it cover only Section 2, say, or, if there were more
than one section in a chapter, only Sections 2-4. Definitely useful.

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> Using Word 2003.
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John Nurick - 03 Sep 2006 10:10 GMT
That's an attractive idea, but I feel it would be useless in practice.
But it's not hard to write a macro that automatically bookmarks a
specified section (or range of sections) and creates a TOC field for
that bookmark.

Here's why I think that a "section" switch in the TOC field wouldn't be
worth the effort.

Yes, it would let you create a TOC for (let's say) Section 4 (which
contains Chapter 1), Section 5 (Chapter 2), Section 6 (Chapter 3) and so
on. But if you then need to re-order the chapters, moving (let's say)
Chapter 9 in front of Chapter 7, you end up with a new Chapter 7 that
contains a TOC field pointing at Section 12, which now contains what
used to be Chapter 8 and has a TOC field pointing at Section 11. And so
on.

Likewise if you have to include a wide table in Chapter 4 (Section 7),
this means inserting two section breaks to switch to and from landscape
view. So Chapter 4 is now Sections 7 to 9, and its TOC field must be
modified accordingly. All subsequent TOCs must be adjusted too.

IMHO keeping track of all this would be *much* more work than just
setting up a few bookmarks. The only way round it that I can see would
be if the field codes could use some kind of "relative reference" that
Word would track automatically (in much the same way that Excel adjusts
references in formulas when you insert, delete or move cells) - which I
suspect would need major work on Word's internals.

>Using Word 2003.
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>section breaks) in order to achieve the desired effect of multiple TOCs, one
>for each "section" (chapter in a book, for example).

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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 03 Sep 2006 17:00 GMT
In your scenario, I agree that the switch would be problematic, but I
personally would not be inserting these TOCs until editing was complete.

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> That's an attractive idea, but I feel it would be useless in practice.
> But it's not hard to write a macro that automatically bookmarks a
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John Nurick - 03 Sep 2006 19:09 GMT
Hi Suzanne,

Where I work we routinely issue one, two or more drafts of a report,
often with significant changes between them, and each needing the full
complement of TOCs.

>In your scenario, I agree that the switch would be problematic, but I
>personally would not be inserting these TOCs until editing was complete.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 03 Sep 2006 20:29 GMT
Where I work, there's just me, and I've never actually had to do a partial
TOC, even for my clients who require umpteen drafts of stuff. I fully see
your point, but I still think this switch would be useful for the people to
whom it would be useful. <g>

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> Hi Suzanne,
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John Nurick - 03 Sep 2006 21:11 GMT
>this switch would be useful for the people to
>whom it would be useful. <g>

There's no arguing with that!

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