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MS Office Forum / Word / Printing and Fonts / December 2003Problem with Fonts after SP4
Hi! I would like to know if someone else is having the same problem as I am. After Installing SP4 in a Windows 2000 machine, I noticed that some fonts like Book Antiqua for example are causing problems with the Show/Hide space, when you do a space you see a little dot but this time the dot is not centered between two words... it looks like this "word .word ". But if I switch to another font like Arial I don't have the problem. I'm using Word 2000 9.0.4402 SR1. Is anyone having the same problem or did had the same problem? Is there any fix for this ? TIA. Nelson I see this as well but hadn't used Book Antiqua enough to remember whether I had the problem before updating Win2k in the wake of the Blaster infestation. I don't imagine there's any cure since it's in the design of the font itself (unless you can manage to get a different version of the font). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word)  SignatureWords into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://www.mvps.org/word Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. > Hi! > I would like to know if someone else is having the same [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Nelson Thank you for your reply. I was using Win2k SP2 and I didn't have the problem before Our company uses Book Antiqua as the default font for Word, that's why we noticed it right away when we update all our win2k Machines to SP4 (500 Machines) They all have the same problems, no exception. Are you able to Confirm that there is no fix for this problem ? I did sooo many searches in MS KB and didn't find anything ! Thank you again for your help ! Nelson >-----Original Message----- >I see this as well but hadn't used Book Antiqua enough to remember whether I [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >. I am not sure why installing SP4 made a difference but I can confirm that the space-marking dots are indeed way right and high within the inter-character space. A possible solution is to change to Palatino Linotype for the company default font. It is Linotype's version of Book Antiqua. (Actually Book Antiqua as a version of Palatino but let's not split hairs.) It does not display the same annoying behaviour. Palatino Linotype is supplied with Windows 2000 and XP. SignatureTom MSMVP PS-D > Thank you for your reply. > [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > > >. Yes I tried the Palatino Linotype but there is a little difference, it's a little bit bigger. Anyways I'll place a call at Microsoft for a fix. Thanks for your help. Nelson >-----Original Message----- >I am not sure why installing SP4 made a difference but I can confirm that [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > >. Since the problem is likely that the glyphs are placed within the "bounding box" to the lower left of the placement in many other fonts, among the prerogatives of the font designer, and since Monotype (now Agfa Monotype) are the font developers and owners (MS licenses it for bundling with certain products) you will likely find that MS has minimum interest in "fixing" what is really not a problem. The font functions normally in all respects. The flaw you cite is merely cosmetic. I can envision a possible fix that would involve adjusting the dot placement based on a weighting of the glyph placement in the box. This would take additional processing time by the rasteriser and that would be difficult to justify for a "flaw" that is cosmetic rather than functional. However, I have been wrong before. It could be that they will embrace the project with enthusiasm. SignatureTom MSMVP PS-D > Yes I tried the Palatino Linotype but there is a little > difference, it's a little bit bigger. [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] > > > >. I would also like to say that I am having problems after loading SP4. My users have Word 2002 and we use a company wide truetype font. Since loading SP4 I can no longer use this in word, but can still use it in Excel and all other programs. Please post on here if you find the answer - I would be very grateful! >-----Original Message----- >Since the problem is likely that the glyphs are placed within the "bounding [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > >. What is the font so-affected? Why can't the font be used? SignatureTom MSMVP PS-D > I would also like to say that I am having problems after > loading SP4. My users have Word 2002 and we use a company [quoted text clipped - 152 lines] > > > >. >Since the problem is likely that the glyphs are placed within the "bounding >box" to the lower left of the placement in many other fonts, among the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >is really not a problem. The font functions normally in all respects. The >flaw you cite is merely cosmetic. I wonder whether it always worked this way, or whether MS broke it at SP4. Perhaps someone out there has a non-SP4 system to try it on? I do not agree that this is "really not a problem". It may be only a small problem, but it is clearly not functioning as intended. The dots sometimes disappear entirely because they are positioned on top of the next character in the sentence. Also, if "merely" cosmetic faults were unimportant, we could all live with only one font on our machines! Fonts are merely eye cosmetics. :-) Bob S > >Since the problem is likely that the glyphs are placed within the "bounding > >box" to the lower left of the placement in many other fonts, among the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I wonder whether it always worked this way, or whether MS broke it at > SP4. Perhaps someone out there has a non-SP4 system to try it on? I believe the has been the behaviour of this font with at least all recent Word versions. However, I have not undertaken the task of checking on various Windos/Word combinations. > I do not agree that this is "really not a problem". It may be only a > small problem, but it is clearly not functioning as intended. The dots > sometimes disappear entirely because they are positioned on top of the > next character in the sentence. Please do not misunderstand. I agree that is is a nuisance; however, the printed document does not suffer any problem as a result of that peculiarity. I have no idea what the font's designer thinks of the result on the display when space-markers are "on". > Also, if "merely" cosmetic faults were unimportant, we could all live > with only one font on our machines! Fonts are merely eye cosmetics. > > :-) I suppose you are exaggerating to make a point. I stand by my opinion. ;-) > Bob S Tom Ferguson MSMVP-DTS |
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