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Word 2000 displays square boxes instead of the actual characters though the font is available in the fonts drop-down list

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Alain Stoz - 29 Jan 2005 18:07 GMT
I have 3 users configured on my PC running on Windows 98. One of these users
experiences a strange and annoying problem in word 2000: most of the fonts
(this includes a common font like Times New Roman) display as square boxes
though they are available in the fonts drop-down list. The Arial font
displays correctly. The other Microsoft Office applications are not
affected. The other 2 users don't have any problem. I have been searching
through the web for a long time to find an indication on how to correct this
problem but without success. It would be really great if somebody could help
me.
Thanks.
ACS
Thomas Ferguson - 30 Jan 2005 00:30 GMT
Approximately how many fonts are installed on the misbehaving system?

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User

:I have 3 users configured on my PC running on Windows 98. One of these users
: experiences a strange and annoying problem in word 2000: most of the fonts
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: ACS
Stozal - 30 Jan 2005 14:05 GMT
I have 702 fonts installed on my PC.

Alain

> Approximately how many fonts are installed on the misbehaving system?
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Peter D. Hipson - 30 Jan 2005 15:22 GMT
That's a lot of fonts... <g> But...

Does the user with problems have the same language settings as the
other users? If a font doesn't have a character set for the specified
language, it can do what you describe...

>I have 702 fonts installed on my PC.
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Stozal - 30 Jan 2005 16:22 GMT
Yes, we all use the same language settings (French). The problem only
appears in Word, not in Excel or PowerPoint. Also not in Outlook, provided
Word is NOT used as the text editor.

Alain

> That's a lot of fonts... <g> But...
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> ExpertZone!
Thomas Ferguson - 30 Jan 2005 15:23 GMT
If you create another user account, does the new account experience the
problem?

Tom
MSMVP
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Stozal - 30 Jan 2005 16:27 GMT
If I create another account, there is no problem but I would need to
configure this new account from scratch with all the settings of the problem
account. I prefer not having to do this.  If I set up a new account by
making a copy of the problem account, I obviously experience the same
problem.

Alain

> If you create another user account, does the new account experience the
> problem?
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Thomas Ferguson - 30 Jan 2005 18:13 GMT
Printer driver would seem to be implicated.

Word checks the printer driver for available fonts. The fact that that
user account is producing blank squares instead of glyphs indicates that
the rasteriser is not finding the required data at the requested code
points in these font files. This points to the printer driver settings.
Check the settings in this account, in particular the font substitution
settings. Change to do not substitute, if different.

Is a PostScript printer being used?

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User

: If I create another account, there is no problem but I would need to
: configure this new account from scratch with all the settings of the problem
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Stozal - 06 Feb 2005 17:04 GMT
I have a HP Laserjet 5L PCL printer. I uninstalled and reinstalled it under
the problem user login. The test page prints correctly ... in Times New
Roman. But word keeps displaying blank squares in this and other fonts. In
Word I checked for font substitution but got the message that all fonts used
in the document (thus Times New Roman which displays in the toolbar!) are
available and that no substitutions are therefore needed.
I spent time comparing the entries in the registry that relate to Word and
fonts and couldn't find any difference between the users.
Should I post this question in another newsgroup?
Best regards
Alain

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Thomas Ferguson - 07 Feb 2005 15:32 GMT
I see I was not as clear as I had hoped. The font substitution settings
you should check are in the printer driver.

Navigate to Start  Printers and fax. Highlight the printer.  Right click
and choose Properties from the context menu which opens. For a PCL
printer, there will be an entry for font substitution table. Change
settings to "Do not substitute" or similar. OK out.

Let us know.

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User

:I have a HP Laserjet 5L PCL printer. I uninstalled and reinstalled it under
: the problem user login. The test page prints correctly ... in Times New
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Stozal - 10 Feb 2005 20:37 GMT
Hellon tom,

I don't have an entry for font substitution in the printer properties. And I
don't think that could be the origin of the problem as only one of the 3
users has the problem and only in Word, not with the other software.

Best regards,
Alain

> I see I was not as clear as I had hoped. The font substitution settings
> you should check are in the printer driver.
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Thomas Ferguson - 13 Feb 2005 23:00 GMT
What is the make and model of the printer? What is the source of the
printer driver used by each machine {Windows distribution CD;
printer-maker CD that came with the printer; download from maker's site;
download from other site}?

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User

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Stozal - 15 Feb 2005 21:02 GMT
Tom,

I have a HP LaserJet 5L printer and use the HP LaserJet 5L PCL driver. I
downloaded this driver from the HP site some years ago.

Best regards,
Alain

> What is the make and model of the printer? What is the source of the
> printer driver used by each machine {Windows distribution CD;
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Thomas Ferguson - 16 Feb 2005 02:43 GMT
Since printer settings are made on a per-user basis, it might be worth a
few minutes to check the font substitution settings. For the HP PCL 5
driver, I believe you will find the font substitution table settings
under the "Device settings" tab.

Tom
MSMVP
Windows Shell/User

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Stozal - 22 Feb 2005 20:43 GMT
Tom,

I can't find anything about font substitution table settings in the
properties of my printer. There is a Fonts tab but only to install a font
cartridge or download True-Type fonts in the printer.

Test pages print exactly the same for all three users of my PC and they
print in Times New Roman.
If the printer settings were different for the problem user, I would think
that the test page would not print correctly and the same problem would
exist in other software like Excel but that's not the case: Times New Roman
displays and prints without any problem in Excel. The problem of Times New
Roman displaying as square boxes is limited to the Microsoft Word software.
It looks like I will have to reinstall the user from scratch hoping that the
problem will not appear again.
Thanks for your help.
Alain

> Since printer settings are made on a per-user basis, it might be worth a
> few minutes to check the font substitution settings. For the HP PCL 5
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