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MS Office Forum / Word / Printing and Fonts / November 2007Help: Getting The LinePrinter Font
I have a document that I need to print out. Originally I thought I'd have to print out almost 200 pages, but then found while experimenting with all the available fonts in WordPad(on my old system which had WindowsMe) that the LinePrinter font lined up the text the way it was supposed to be(Unlike almost all the other fonts), and it also mae the text small enough to allow the document to be printed out in only 89 pages. Unfortunately, my old system is too screwed up for my printer to work with it, so I had to connect a new(Windows XP) system to the internet. The problem is that the WordPad documents on this new system do not have the same fonts as on my old system, and LinePrinter is no where to be found. Can someone tell me how to correct this situation? Or recommend an even better font for my purposes if such a font exists? Thanks a lot. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > I have a document that I need to print out. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is this a font that was in your fonts folder or was it a font that is/ was in your printer? See if this helps... http://www.sxlist.com/techref/language/pcl/fontdnload.htm Bill > > I have a document that I need to print out. > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I'm assuming the font is not in the printer. I opened WordPad, clicked on "Format" and then "Font". The fonts were then displayed. I had found that link you posted. But it is very confusing. Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > I have a document that I need to print out. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. Just copy the font from the system it's on to the one that doesn't have it. > > I have a document that I need to print out. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I wich I knew how to do that. I had put "LinePrinter* *" in the search and came up with hundreds of hits. I have no idea exactly what I'm supposed to be looking for. Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. >>>I have a document that I need to print out. >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York How about just using any mono-spaced font such as Courier Andale Mono Consolas downloadable directly from Microsoft at http://tinyurl.com/qxzuw and adjusting the character spacing and point size to fit. HP's Lineprinter font is set for 16.66 characters per inch and an 8.5 point size (I'm not sure what the line-to-line spacing is supposed to be) WordPad may not be up to the task - WordPerfect or MSWord or just about anything else will allow you make the character spacing adjustments. > >>>I have a document that I need to print out. > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > - Show quoted text - The reason I want LinePrinter is because it allowed the smallest text of all the fonts available on my old WindowsMe system. On my new Windows XP system Lucida Console is the best, but I don't think it shrinks things down as much as LinePrinter. Another issue is that on my XP system I cannot determine how many pages a document is in WordPad *before* I print it out. When I open the document the little notations show which page I'm looking at do not pop up when using the vertical slider. So that is another problem I have to solve. Anyway, what I need to print out is here: http://marp.retrogames.com/ At the end of the alphabet along the top there is a "1st" link. I need to print out the scoring list there, and do it using a minimum number of sheets of paper. No too small to read, and the text has to line up the same way it is displayed at the site. Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. >>>>>I have a document that I need to print out. >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > The reason I want LinePrinter is because it allowed the smallest text > of all the fonts available on my old WindowsMe system. That font was probably installed with an hp printer driver. You should be able to find it in C:\windows\fonts (the FILE name will not be "line printer", but that's where it will be. > On my new Windows XP system Lucida Console is the best, but I don't > think it shrinks things down as much as LinePrinter. Type is whatever size you make it. SOME fonts are slightly condensed or compressed, allowing more characters per inch for a given point size (height). > Another issue is that on my XP system I cannot determine how many > pages a document is in WordPad *before* I print it out. When I open > the document the little notations show which page I'm looking at do > not pop up when using the vertical slider. So that is another problem > I have to solve. Yes, it's clumsy. What you can do is select file/print preview; and then hold the pagedown key while it rapidly goes through all the pages. It will stop at the last page, and the page number is shown down in the lower left corner. You can then either close the preview window (with the "close" button) or decide to print. > Anyway, what I need to print out is here: http://marp.retrogames.com/ > > At the end of the alphabet along the top there is a "1st" link. I need > to print out the scoring list there, and do it using a minimum number > of sheets of paper. > Not too small to read, That's a very subjective judgement - > and the text has to line up the same way it is > displayed at the site. I used Lucida Console, selecting 8 pt. type, with the following FILE/PAGE SETUP settings (I think they're the default settings) Letter-size paper (US) Left and Right Margins .5 inch Top Margin .5 inch Bottom Margin .55 inch Your margin limits may vary slightly depending on the printer you select - many printers limit how close the top and bottom of the page you can print. Using those settings, the document came out to 81 pages. A very few of the lines wrap to two lines; they're simply too long to have that many characters on one line with anything approaching a readable size. Using a point size of 6 gets it down to 60 pages and no wrapped lines, but that's VERY small type. 6.5 point leaves just a couple of wraps in a 65-page document (by the way - you can enter point sizes directly into the box instead of using the dropdown - you're not limited to the sizes in the dropdown). To try different fonts and font sizes, click on the text, press Ctrl-A to select ALL, then change your font/size selection. You can leave it selected when you go to Print Preview to see the results. - Character > Searcher7wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > be able to find it in C:\windows\fonts (the FILE name will not be > "line printer", but that's where it will be. After several hours(more) on this the only option was to copy most of the 60 files I got with that search. It wasn't easy since the floppy drive barely works and many of the files are larger than a floppy disk's capacity. > > Another issue is that on my XP system I cannot determine how many > > pages a document is in WordPad *before* I print it out. When I open [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > down in the lower left corner. You can then either close the preview > window (with the "close" button) or decide to print. There is no slider, so I had to use the page next. The total number was 106 pages(using Lucida Console at 8 pt. type). I have to learn how to manipulate the margins,but I think they are at default, which is what I'd want anyway. > To try different fonts and font sizes, click on the text, press Ctrl-A > to select ALL, then change your font/size selection. You can leave it > selected when you go to Print Preview to see the results. I just Select all, then click "Format", then "Font", then I select the Font and click "OK". Anyway, since I was unablbe to upload the FOnts to my Verizon e-mail for some reason, I copied as many Font files from my old system as I could to floppy disks. But I have no idea which one is LinePrinter(if I got it copied). I can't copy from the floppy disks to the Font folder on my new system, or even from a folder I created on my desktop. I couldn't even get most of the fonts from the floppy disks to my desktop folder. And for those that made it I had to copy one at a time. The goal of printing out this document started two months ago.(See "Help: Two Sided Printing" in "comp.periphs.printers"). And after getting a maintenance kit which included more ram for my HP LaserJet 2100TN and putting together a whole new PC system(which was hell in and of itself) I am no closer to getting it done despite help from the following groups: "Help: Getting The LinePrinter Font" "microsoft.public.word.printingfonts" "Help: Getting The LinePrinter Font" "comp.fonts" "LaserJet 2100TN: Drivers and Fonts" "comp.periphs.printers" I had promised to copy and send this document out to someone who is um...socially restricted at the moment. So it looks like I wasted another weekend, and I'll have no choice but to pay to have this @#$%! document printed out at a store that does that, because all the hardware and software I have has been useless to me. Thanks to everyone for trying. Darren Harris Statebn Island, New York. A fairly straightforward solution is to copy the data into Word, format it as Courier New (or another mono-spaced font) at, say, 8pt, on a landscape page (eg A4, legal) with 5-6mm margins then print. Cheers  Signaturemacropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] ------------------------- >> Searcher7wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 125 lines] > Darren Harris > Statebn Island, New York. > I have a document that I need to print out. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. There are NO Wordpad fonts. Wordpad uses whatever fonts are installed in Windows. Even if it's a printer font (downloaded to your printer), you cannot view a document using a font unless it's also installed in Windows. Since you do indeed see your document with the LinePrinter font, it must be installed in your WindowsMe. To locate the font file: 1. On the taskbar at the bottom of your desktop, select [Start > Settings > Control Panel] (or the equivalent in WindowsMe). 2. On the Control Panel window, double-click on the Fonts icon. 3. On the menu bar of the Fonts window, select [View > Details]. You should see the font files displayed with both the font names and their file names. You can double-click on a font icon to get a display of the font. After transferring the desired font file to a temporary folder on your Windows XP PC: 1. Open the Fonts window on Windows XP per steps #1-2 above. 2. On the menu bar of the Fonts window, select [File > Install New Font]. 3. In the bottom half of the Add Fonts window, navigate to the folder where you placed the font file. 4. In the top half of the Add Fonts window, select the font file and then select the OK button. SignatureDavid E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the people who die of natural causes. > On 11/24/2007 7:42 PM,Searcher7wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > their file names. You can double-click on a font icon to get a display > of the font. I did that, but for some odd reason "LinePrinter" is not there. But it is definitely the Font I used in Notepad when I clicked format, then Font. It is one of the selections. > After transferring the desired font file to a temporary folder on your > Windows XP PC: I'm not sure what you mean by temporary folder, but I assume that doesn't mean to make a new folder on the desktop, correct? Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > On Nov 25, 10:39 am, I previously wrote [in part]: >> There are NO Wordpad fonts. Wordpad uses whatever fonts are installed >> in Windows. Even if it's a printer font (downloaded to your printer), >> you cannot view a document using a font unless it's also installed in >> Windows. Since you do indeed see your document with the LinePrinter >> font, it must be installed in your WindowsMe. [snipped instructions for finding font files] > I did that, but for some odd reason "LinePrinter" is not there. But it > is definitely the Font I used in Notepad when I clicked format, then > Font. It is one of the selections. Previously, you said "Wordpad", which uses the installed fonts. You now say "Notepad". With Windows 98 and earlier, Notepad had its own internal font. With Windows XP, Notepad uses the installed fonts. You are using Windows ME, which was between Windows 98 and Windows XP; I don't know if Notepad Windows ME followed the Windows 98 design or the Windows XP design. >> After transferring the desired font file to a temporary folder on your >> Windows XP PC: > > I'm not sure what you mean by temporary folder, but I assume that > doesn't mean to make a new folder on the desktop, correct? You create a folder to hold the file. It can be anywhere you want it (Desktop, C-drive, etc). I avoided saying that the file should go directly on your Desktop because, on Windows XP, the path to Desktop itself may vary according to how you have configured your Windows accounts. My Desktop is at <C:\Documents and Settings\User\Desktop>. Yours might be at <C:\Documents and Settings\Searcher7\Desktop> or <C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop>. SignatureDavid E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com/> Natural foods can be harmful: Look at all the people who die of natural causes. > On 11/25/2007 10:06 PM,Searcher7wrote:> On Nov 25, 10:39 am, I previously wrote [in part]: > >> There are NO Wordpad fonts. Wordpad uses whatever fonts are installed [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > don't know if Notepad Windows ME followed the Windows 98 design or the > Windows XP design. I've been switching between PCs so much I'm confusing myself. I reconnected everything to my WindowsME PC and realized that it is "Microsoft Word 2000" that allows the LinePrinter font.(But still cannot find that file in the font folder. It was difficult enough copying the page from online to my WindowsMe computer. Notepad couldn't hold the entire page and when I tried to copy it to Word all I'd get were squiggly lines. So while creating multiple Notepads so I could copy the page in sections something happened. One of the Notepads "converted" itself to what looked like a simple version of Word and allowed me to fit *all* of the text I needed copied.(The Icon however remained a Notepad icon). > >> After transferring the desired font file to a temporary folder on your > >> Windows XP PC: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > <C:\Documents and Settings\Searcher7\Desktop> or <C:\Documents and > Settings\Owner\Desktop>. I got a total of 25 out of the 66 fonts from my WindowsME system. I used floppy disks to get them to a folder on my Windows XP desktop. I had to transfer to my 4G flash drive from there, and then it allow me to copy to the Windows XP fonts folder.(I know, a long way to go). But LinePrinter is still not there. I'm assuming that it was one of the other 35 fonts I couldn't get from my Windows ME system.(I still don't know the abbreviated name for "LinePrinter". the only phrase I put in the search that brought back any hits is "LinePrinter* *".(And that was hundreds of hits). Thanks. Darren Harris Staten Island, New York. > Previously, you said "Wordpad", which uses the installed fonts. You now > say "Notepad". With Windows 98 and earlier, Notepad had its own > internal font. With Windows XP, Notepad uses the installed fonts. That's not true. Notepad (in Win98) has a default font, a monospaced screen font whose name escapes me, but you can choose any other system font, Truetype or otherwise. I used Win98 up to a year ago, so I am sure of this. I think it may have printed using Courier if you used a screen font. In any case, there is no unique"Lineprinter" font. In the Olden Days, printers had two fonts, a monospaced standard-width one (80 characters to a line) and a narrow (132 chars per line). The latter is probably what the OP wants. There are many Truetype emulations of these, locations to find them have been mentioned in other posts. The Line Printer font is one that is printer-resident in early HP LaserJet printers. It was available only when using the appropriate PCL (Page Control Language) printer driver for the printer. It is not available using the PS (PostScript) driver. It was provided so that the HP printer could emulate a true HP Line Printer, a printer that could print an entire horizontal line of type with one strike of the mechanical print head. You can install the LaserJet III PCL printer driver on your computer and you will see the font listed on your font menu. Problem is, at print time, since the font is not an outline font with the data available from files on your system or from the printer's RAM, nor is it in the printer's ROM, the printer will use its default font. Page layouts will change. The result is likely to be a mess. However, if you have access to a LJ III, you could produce a printer file by using the driver set to use "file" as its port. Then, you could print the file from a computer that has the LJ lll connected by copying the file to the printer. Again, for such use, select the PCL driver. With regard to a font that us legible at small point sizes, Nina is worth a look. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/links/news.aspx?NID=1470 http://www.ascendercorp.com/msfonts/nina_family.html http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/detail.htm?pid=427943 If you go here http://www.ghostscript.com/awki/GhostPCL and download the urwfonts....bz2 TrueType package, when decompressed/extracted with WinRar or the like, you will find a font called ArtLinePrinter. It's a very 'scrappy' version of LinePrinter. I doubt if you would find it satisfactory but there it is. It is usable on any Windows-supported printer. Tom MSMVP 1998-2007 >I have a document that I need to print out. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Darren Harris > Staten Island, New York. |
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