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MS Office Forum / Word / Programming / November 2004Modules
Questions about modules. When I looked in Templates & Add Ins - Organizer in the Duplex Printing template I could see in the macro projects that there were NewMacros and Module1. I expect that I can copy either NM’s or M1 into another template, which I will call, “MyTemplate,” for clarity. I may not want to get rid of the NM’s in MyTemplate so I could just copy what I wanted otherwise. Could I move the macro in NewMacros in the Duplex template to, say, Module2 and copy it into the My Template so I could keep the NewMacros in MyTemplate? Does a template that contains macros have to have a NewMacros project in it or can it just have Module1, 2, etc? I have a template in Word Startup that I’ve named Global.dot and it has 4 toolbars. There are many macros in the template and I would like to separate them into 4 modules so that the macros corresponding to each toolbar are in a module by themselves. If I move them into a module will they continue to work or do I have to make new toolbar buttons for them? Is it possible to name the modules something other than Module1, 2, etc?  SignatureTonya Marshall Hi Tonya, to the best of my knowledge, you don't need a NewMacros module, not project! You can have just Module1, 2, etc. >I have a template in Word Startup that Ive named Global.dot and it has >4 toolbars. There are many macros in the template and I would like to >separate them into 4 modules so that the macros corresponding to each >toolbar are in a module by themselves. If I move them into a module will >they continue to work or do I have to make new toolbar buttons for them? If you move macros from one module to another, buttons don't find them anymore. To maintain the old button face, you have to create a new button, copy the old button face and paste it over the new button face. Tedious, sure! And delete the old one. >Is it possible to name the modules something other than Module1, 2, etc? Yes. But the effect is the same as with moving macros. Probably all that moving and reassigning can be done programmatically. But though I like programming, I'd rather do it manually. --- Greetings from Bavaria, Germany Helmut Weber, MVP "red.sys" & chr(64) & "t-online.de" Word XP, Win 98 http://word.mvps.org/ Thanks so much for the info, Helmut. Looks like my project is cut out for me if that's what I decide to do. As far as renaming the modules, that's really not that important to me. I just thoughtt that if it was simple to do, it would be kind of nice to give each module a descriptive name. Tonya Marshall > Hi Tonya, > to the best of my knowledge, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Word XP, Win 98 > http://word.mvps.org/ Hi Tonya, Just to add a bit to what Helmut said: - The NewMacros module is created when you use the macro recorder and don't specify a module name when you name the macro. (Tip: If you already have another module in the template, say "MyModule", and you want to record a macro into it, you can type "MyModule.MyNewMacro" in the recorder dialog.) - Renaming a module works well if you do the renaming as soon as you create the module, before you assign any buttons to the macros in it. After you've created buttons, as Helmut said, the button is tied to the combination of the module name and the macro name, and there's no easy way to change it. - I tend to create a separate module for each macro. The module may contain one main routine that appears in the Macros list and several private subs or functions, but the whole thing acts as a single program. The most common exception to that rule is a single module for Auto macros (but more often I write event routines). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org >Thanks so much for the info, Helmut. Looks like my project is cut out >for me if that's what I decide to do. As far as renaming the modules, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> Word XP, Win 98 >> http://word.mvps.org/ Hi Tonya > Questions about modules. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > template to, say, Module2 and copy it into the My Template so I could keep > the NewMacros in MyTemplate? Yes. > Does a template that contains macros have to have a NewMacros project in > it or can it just have Module1, 2, etc? No. NewMacros is simply the default name given to the module where recorded macros are placed. > I have a template in Word Startup that I’ve named Global.dot and it has 4 > toolbars. There are many macros in the template and I would like to > separate them into 4 modules so that the macros corresponding to each > toolbar are in a module by themselves. If I move them into a module will > they continue to work or do I have to make new toolbar buttons for them? If you change either the macro name or the module name, then you will need to rebuild the toolbar buttons, because the button calls the macro on the basis of both names. > Is it possible to name the modules something other than Module1, 2, etc? Yes. In the VBA editor, open the module. You can change the name of the module by changing the (Name) property in the property pane in the bottom left of the window. By the way, you can also change the name of the project itself to something shorter than TemplateProject. This can be useful because having a short project name and a short module name gives you a change of actually being able to see the routine name in the Tools Customize dialog, when you are assigning routines to toolbar buttons or keyboard shortcuts. With the VBA editor open, go to Tools, TemplateProject Properties, and change the name in the Properties dialog that appears. On a more general note, there are the following good reasons to divide a project into modules. 1. Its easier to organise things, and you are more easily able to copy macros from one template to another if they relates macros are grouped together in a single module. 2. Routines, Declare statements and global variables that are declared using the Private keyword can only be accessed by other routines *in the same module*. Declaring everything as private unless you definitely intend it to be called from another module is a good way of ensuring that adding a module to another template isn't going to mess up the existing code there because of a name clash between two routines of the same name in different modules. SignatureRegards Jonathan West - Word MVP www.intelligentdocuments.co.uk Please reply to the newsgroup Thank you all for your suggestions and help. I see I have my work cut out for me and it will be very nice to organize my macros into some semblance of order. I ran a find & replace request for () and replacing with () to count the macros in Global.dot - 54 macros! All dumped into NewMacros. Some of the macros have been in there since WD97 and have been carried into WD '00, '02, and now '03. I just pulled the buttons off the toolbars if I didn't use them anymore such as macros that have been replaced by the Places bar in the File/Open dialog. It's going to b kind of like cleaning out an attic <g>. I copied all of the macros in Global.dot and pasted them into a document then separated them into 5 "modulename" documents in a new folder in My Documents. I will make new toolbars with different names than the ones in Global.dot so I can have the ones in Global.dot open and be able to copy and paste some of the button images to the toolbars in NewGlobal.dot or whatever I plan to call it. As you said, Jonathan, it will be much easier to find the macros in the Customize dialog (and why in the dickens don't they make that window bigger?) with a different project name. I have 4 other templates in Word Startup that I will put the macros into the new template and will end up with only one template with a few more modules in it. Doubtless, I will be back with more questions. This is going to take me a bit of time to do. Thank you, again. Tonya Marshall <snip It went easier and faster than I thought it would. Finding the macros in Customize/Commands was so much faster and easier with a different Template Project name and with different module names. I named the toolbars the same names but put "Bar" after the names so I could have both toolbars open and copy & paste the button images from the old to the new and not get them mixed up. Then after I moved the old templates out of Startup and put in the new one I renamed the toolbars with the old names and changed the macros that open and close them back to the old names. I have 1 template in Word Startup instead of 5. It's certainly much easier to keep track of the macros. Everything seems to be working right, but I saved the old startup templates in a folder ... just in case. Thanks again for all your help. Tonya Marshall > Thank you all for your suggestions and help. I see I have my work cut > out for me and it will be very nice to organize my macros into some [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > <snip lol ... you've created a monster. Now I've cleaned up my Normal.dot (it doesn't have very many macros in it) and put the macros in separate modules. Tonya Marshall <snip Tonya Marshall was telling us: Tonya Marshall nous racontait que : > lol ... you've created a monster. Now I've cleaned up my Normal.dot > (it doesn't have very many macros in it) and put the macros in > separate modules. Tonya Marshall In a global template other than Normal.dot, I hope? Or, at least, if you want to hang on to those macros, make sure you have a backup of your Normal.dot. SignatureSalut! _______________________________________ Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP jmarcilREMOVE@CAPSsympatico.caTHISTOO Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org I have XNormal.dot, the one that has the macros in it but not separated into modules. I think there are only 5 in it. My Global.dot in Startup has the majority of macros in it. Tonya Marshall > Tonya Marshall was telling us: > Tonya Marshall nous racontait que : [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Or, at least, if you want to hang on to those macros, make sure you have a > backup of your Normal.dot. Well, I found out the folly of doing that. Normal.dot needs only NewMacros or the macros get put into every new template. :/ Tonya Marshall > lol ... you've created a monster. Now I've cleaned up my Normal.dot (it > doesn't have very many macros in it) and put the macros in separate modules. > Tonya Marshall > > <snip Tonya Marshall was telling us: Tonya Marshall nous racontait que : > Well, I found out the folly of doing that. Normal.dot needs only > NewMacros or the macros get put into every new template. :/ > Tonya Marshall ???? What do you mean? SignatureSalut! _______________________________________ Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP jmarcilREMOVE@CAPSsympatico.caTHISTOO Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org When I made a new template and put a macro in it, every macro that was in Normal.dot was in the new template, too. I went back to the old Normal.dot and that doesn't happen. If you want I can send you an example of what happened. Tonya Marshall > Tonya Marshall was telling us: > Tonya Marshall nous racontait que : [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ???? > What do you mean? Tonya Marshall was telling us: Tonya Marshall nous racontait que : > When I made a new template and put a macro in it, every macro that was > in Normal.dot was in the new template, too. I went back to the old > Normal.dot and that doesn't happen. If you want I can send you an > example of what happened. Never seen that before! I do not think it has anything to do with the module name. You must have done something while you weren't looking! I have had tons of modules/macros in my Normal.dot over the years, and never have they been transferred to a newly created template. Unless you had Normal.dot still open and you did "Save as" to create a template, I do not see how it would happen. Yet another Normal.dot mystery! See why it is better to leave it alone! I never save anything important in Normal.dot, just macro scraps I want to quickly test. As soon as I get serious with wanting to preserve my work, I create a template or a document, depending on my purpose. If I want the said macros to be available at all times, I dump them in a template that is located in my Start-up folder. SignatureSalut! _______________________________________ Jean-Guy Marcil - Word MVP jmarcilREMOVE@CAPSsympatico.caTHISTOO Word MVP site: http://www.word.mvps.org I have only a few macros in N.dot. One is a public sub and I think it has to be there, plus one that has commands to keep the reviewing toolbar and the web toolbar from popping up itheir ugly heads and a close macro that prevents the bug that doesn't save changes to a template done through a document generated from the template. I discovered this when I wanted to change a template style through a document from the template and I was not prompted to save the changes to the template. The glitch was tested by Beth Melton and she declared it an official but. Closing the window rather than using File/Close would bring a prompt, though, and the macro reflects that by closing the doc window. Tonya Marshall > Tonya Marshall was telling us: > Tonya Marshall nous racontait que : [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > If I want the said macros to be available at all times, I dump them in a > template that is located in my Start-up folder. |
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