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JJ Runnion - 13 Nov 2006 15:37 GMT
I noticed that in our setup for Office 2003, the folder is always empty for
the path: Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP

Yet, the documentation I've been reading here suggests that this is where
document templates are stored (including normal.dot).  Is this a change in
Word 2003?  The normal.dot and default save locale for new templates is in
the folder: Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
Data\Microsoft\Templates

Is there an operational or good reason to change this from the latter back
to the former?

Thanx,

j
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Graham Mayor - 13 Nov 2006 15:49 GMT
The startup folder is where add-in templates are stored. If you don't have
any add-in templates this folder willbe empty.

Normal.dot and personal templates go in the user template  folder (both as
defined at tools > options > file locations)

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> I noticed that in our setup for Office 2003, the folder is always
> empty for the path: Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
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> j
Jonathan West - 13 Nov 2006 15:52 GMT
>I noticed that in our setup for Office 2003, the folder is always empty for
> the path: Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
> Data\Microsoft\Word\STARTUP
>
> Yet, the documentation I've been reading here suggests that this is where
> document templates are stored (including normal.dot).

The documentation you have been reading is wrong. The startup folder is
where add-ins (also known as global templates) go. Not where document
templates go.

> Is this a change in
> Word 2003?

No.

> The normal.dot and default save locale for new templates is in
> the folder: Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
> Data\Microsoft\Templates

So it has been in all versions from Word 2000 onwards.

> Is there an operational or good reason to change this from the latter back
> to the former?

The startup and user templates folders are separate for a very good reason.
Don't try to combine them, or all your templates will get loaded as add-ins,
and you don't want that!

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JJ Runnion - 14 Nov 2006 13:59 GMT
and i tried to use it that way, by creating a MasterTemplate that had a group
of macros included with it.  However, the keystrokes for the macros don't
seem to work ... i must be missing something.
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> >I noticed that in our setup for Office 2003, the folder is always empty for
> > the path: Documents and Settings\[username]\Application
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> Don't try to combine them, or all your templates will get loaded as add-ins,
> and you don't want that!
Jonathan West - 14 Nov 2006 14:40 GMT
> and i tried to use it that way, by creating a MasterTemplate that had a
> group
> of macros included with it.  However, the keystrokes for the macros don't
> seem to work ... i must be missing something.

the simplest way to get keyboard shortcuts to work when the add-in is loaded
is for them to be saved in the add-in itself. When you have the Tools
Customize dialog open, make sure that the "Save Changes in" box shows the
correct template.

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Jean-Guy Marcil - 14 Nov 2006 15:34 GMT
JJ Runnion was telling us:
JJ Runnion nous racontait que :

> and i tried to use it that way, by creating a MasterTemplate that had
> a group of macros included with it.  However, the keystrokes for the
> macros don't seem to work ... i must be missing something.

Are you certain that when the keyboard shortcuts were created that they were
stored in the target template by selecting this template name in the "Save
changes in:" list in the keyboard key assignment dialog box?

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JJ Runnion - 14 Nov 2006 16:19 GMT
Every thing was originally created in the normal.dot template on the client's
machine, including the keyboard shortcuts.  What we are trying to do is copy
the macros and the keyboard shortcuts over to a new MasterTemplate.dot file
on a shared drive so that they can be used by the entire team in her office.

I clearly have missed a step in doing the copy from the normal.dot template
into the master template.

Does she have to recreate the keystrokes in order to save them to the master
template? Or can they be copied ...

j
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> JJ Runnion was telling us:
> JJ Runnion nous racontait que :
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> stored in the target template by selecting this template name in the "Save
> changes in:" list in the keyboard key assignment dialog box?
Jean-Guy Marcil - 14 Nov 2006 20:22 GMT
JJ Runnion was telling us:
JJ Runnion nous racontait que :

> Every thing was originally created in the normal.dot template on the
> client's machine, including the keyboard shortcuts.  What we are
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> I clearly have missed a step in doing the copy from the normal.dot
> template into the master template.

How did you copy the stuff from Normal.dot to NewTemplate.dot?

> Does she have to recreate the keystrokes in order to save them to the
> master template? Or can they be copied ...

If you did "Save As" from Normal.dot, the keybindings should have been
transferred, but they can be a bit flaky at times.

So,  I guess, to be safe, she should recreate them, making sure to select
the "NewTemplate.dot" name in the "Save changes in:" dropdown of the dialog
where you assign the new shortcuts.

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