I am trying to identify all items in a footer, especially objects like
frames. If the footer is selected, the frames are easily seen:

    Selection.Frames.Count

Count may be greater than zero (if any are present). However, in trying to
find the items when they aren't selected, the count is always zero:

   
ActiveDocument.Sections(x).Footer(wdHeaderFooterEvenPages).Range.Frames.Count

How can these things be found?