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All Fonts Change Improperly! Help!

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Seraph - 13 Jan 2005 02:11 GMT
I am hoping that someone here will have a simple answer to solve my problem.

I have a website that I have written using Microsoft Word.  I have it saved
as both a document and a website.

For some odd reason, when I try to add information all of the other text/
fonts on the page change, too.  When I decide to center some new text, all
of the text throughout the page becomes centered.

I have been unable to update the site due to this problem.  I am hoping that
I accidentally changed a parameter and someone in the know can tell me how
to revert back to the way it has always worked.

In other words, when I decide that an item I want to add should be centered,
I only want that "pasted" item to be centered, not the entire page.

Is there anyone out there that understands what I am describing and can help
me resolve it?

TIA,
lostinspace - 13 Jan 2005 03:33 GMT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Seraph" <>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.word.web.authoring
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:11 PM
Subject: All Fonts Change Improperly! Help!

>I am hoping that someone here will have a simple answer to solve my
>problem.
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>
> TIA,

You have a URL for the website or page in question?
Seraph - 14 Jan 2005 01:26 GMT
I sent the URL to you.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Seraph" <>
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>
> You have a URL for the website or page in question?
Seraph - 14 Jan 2005 01:27 GMT
I guess I didn't, as the message was returned. :-)

It is http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Sanok/
Can you tell by going to it online what is causing this problem?

> I sent the URL to you.
>
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> >
> > You have a URL for the website or page in question?
lostinspace - 14 Jan 2005 21:21 GMT
t is http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Sanok/
Can you tell by going to it online what is causing this problem?

"Seraph" <> wrote in message
...
> I sent the URL to you.
>
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> > >
> > > I have been unable to update the site due to this problem.  I am
hoping
> > > that
> > > I accidentally changed a parameter and someone in the know can tell me
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> > >
> > > Is there anyone out there that understands what I am describing and
can
> > > help
> > > me resolve it?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> >
> > You have a URL for the website or page in question?

The page has multiple issues which need resolution.
1) you have too much data crammed into a solitary web page.
2) The bloat created within the html "needlessly" added by using Word (99%
is unnecessary) to create your web page makes deciphering of a solitary
error in which you previously described impossible.

3) one "assumption" is that you are either attempting to insert data or an
object in place of which it should not be inserted in the first place, or
you have a html statement which is not closed.

In my opinion, the best thing you may do for your page and your efforts,
would be to start from a new beginning utilizing an effective method and
software.

Microsoft Front Page is a tool designed primarily for creating web pages,
however you CANNOT copy and paste neither text or objects from MS WORD and
into MS FRONT PAGE else you improve nothing. This copy and pasting process
would result in an exact duplication of what you current have.
Seraph - 14 Jan 2005 23:58 GMT
That's what I was afraid of ... I had wanted to transfer to a real web page
program, but had a sneaky feeling that I couldn't just do this.  Are you
saying that I could do a copy/paste if all was well?  That would be good to
know, as I have 5 other town sites and they work just fine.  I would like to
at least transfer them.

Thanks for trying.  I now have the weekend to play around with this.  Maybe
I will try doing a copy paste a bit at a time starting at the top and seeing
in what area things start getty funky.

I appreciate your attempt at trying to solve this problem. I really do
appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge.

> t is http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Sanok/
> Can you tell by going to it online what is causing this problem?
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> into MS FRONT PAGE else you improve nothing. This copy and pasting process
> would result in an exact duplication of what you current have.
lostinspace - 15 Jan 2005 00:48 GMT
"Are you saying that I could do a copy/paste if all was well?"

NO!
What I'm saying is that NOT under any circumstances should you copy and
paste from within Word to the majority of other software's.
Instead,
You copy and paste your text from Word to NotePad (NOT Wordpad) or any other
standard text editor.
From that software you copy and paste into a web software.

This conversion process removes ALL font and layout formatting.

You may download a FREE older version of Front Page Express.
It's not perfect, however it is more functional for creating web pages than
Word.
If your interested?
I'll dig up a link for you or you may search this NG's archives at:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.web.authoring
Seraph - 15 Jan 2005 01:42 GMT
You are a gem, I am saving all of your emails.

So, if I use a standard text editor, such as: NotePad (not Wordpad), I just
copy paste  to it and after that step, I can copy/paste to something like
Front Page.  From that point, I would need to change fonts, colors, etc.?
Is that what you are telling me? Even though, the images won't be there can
I just do a copy/paste of the whole page?  If so, I would at least have the
captions there, and only have to insert the images.

Does what I just wrote make sense to you? :-)

Also, is NotePad part of what is available on my computer, if I have Windows
XP?  Or is it part of another program?

Although, I have put together websites, I really am not familiar with the
technical aspects of it all. So, I thank you for trying to simplify your
advice.

> "Are you saying that I could do a copy/paste if all was well?"
>
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> I'll dig up a link for you or you may search this NG's archives at:
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.word.web.authoring
lostinspace - 15 Jan 2005 02:32 GMT
"Even though, the images won't be there can I just do a copy/paste of the
whole page?  If so, I would at least have the captions there, and only have
to insert the images."

NO.

Your entire purpose here is in creating web pages of which you may at the
very minimum serve up with an industry standard structure which will allow
you to learn and others to assist.

By attempting to copy and paste an entire page from Word to any other
product, you defeat (INSTANTLY) your goal. Any attempt you make to save time
in this new beginning will easily cost you 100-fold in time later.

1) You copy and paste text (a portion at a time) from Word to--NotePad and
then--from NotePad and --into FP or another software.
 a) NotePad is a basic text editor and does not have any capability for
handling images, borders, divides, spans or any other layout setting created
by Word.
2) You size your images prior to inserting links to the images in your web
page software.
3) You insert a link to the previously sized image into your web page
software.

There are established tutorials for these methods (creating web pages)
across the internet.
http://werbach.com/barebones/
http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/General/Internet/WWW/HTMLPrimerAll.html
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/basics.html
http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp

The following website quite excellent and very thorough and detialed. With
some archives going back to 1997:
http://webreference.com/dlab/
lostinspace - 15 Jan 2005 00:52 GMT
Additionally!
There are some settings within Word which may be changed to reduce the html
bloat.
There is an option in the newer versions of Word for an HTML Cleaner option.

Neither of these are flawless, however you will end up with something easier
to both correct and work with.
 
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